You make me wonder how much would it costs to beef up the cryogenic plant on an LNG tanker to the point that it could pull up to an offshore platform and take the gas, process it to cryo state and keep doing so until it was full? That would solve both the wasteful flaring and the expensive fixed location cryo-plant problems at the same time.Maddog78 wrote:1) Up to a certain point. Depends a lot on the individual fields characteristics. You cannot re-inject at a rate that may damage the pipe or formation. --snip--
For example I laugh when our paper makes a big announcement about a 100 million dollar high rise being built in town. Front page news.
Expletive deleted. my company is relatively small and we spend that in my region alone in less than 2 months.
XOM spends that in a week.
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Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada wrote:
You make me wonder how much would it costs to beef up the cryogenic plant on an LNG tanker to the point that it could pull up to an offshore platform and take the gas, process it to cryo state and keep doing so until it was full? That would solve both the wasteful flaring and the expensive fixed location cryo-plant problems at the same time.
LNG trains are multi billion operations. And the infrastructure is key.dorlomin wrote:These are being developed but not tanker and LNG plant in one ship. Its to access offshore stranded gas.Tanada wrote:You make me wonder how much would it costs to beef up the cryogenic plant on an LNG tanker to the point that it could pull up to an offshore platform and take the gas, process it to cryo state and keep doing so until it was full? That would solve both the wasteful flaring and the expensive fixed location cryo-plant problems at the same time.
Sound familiar Shale Gas fans?But in a nice portrait of demand outstripping geology, the UAE now must import LNG to fund its parabolic growth in electricity demand. (part of that demand is also for water desalination). And this is despite the UAE’s very sizeable reserves of natural gas. Worse, at times the UAE has even had to switch back to oil-fired power generation, owing to infrastructural limits to the NG-fired portions of the power grid. This too offers an insight: it’s easier and faster to put up buildings and build roads than it is to develop oil and gas for production.
mcgowanjm wrote:Too bad Dubai didn't invest in these 'trains' and instead decided
to build the largest Potemkin Village the World will ever see.
Maddog78 wrote:http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?hpf=1&a_id=82998
Looks like Mexico will slow down on pissing away a bunch of their n. gas. This has always struck me as such a waste.
It happens in other countries too. If they don't have the infrastructure to handle it for various reasons, it just gets flared so they can produce the oil. Not every country can use it or afford a pipeline and LNG plant.
Micro-GTL
micro-GTL refers to a technology that converts natural gas and other methanogenic gas streams directly into a synthetic diesel fuel. "GTL" refers to the gas to liquids conversion process originally developed in Germany early in the last century, and referred to as the Fischer-Tropsch process.
Two companies provide micro-GTL products. One is Alchem Field Services, Inc.[1] based in Oklahoma City, OK, who manufactures portable, modular, scaleable gas-to-liquids technology that processes up to 25 MMcfd (million cubic feet per day). Alchem's micro-GTL plants, called Fuelformers and Dieselators, provide capability to commercialize stranded or wasted methane and tackle both small and medium sized gas fields. Their technology is advantageously able to expand or reduce processing capability as gas production streams grow or decline. ...
FUELFORMER™
Fuelformer™ applications include: gas well production, flare elimination, and lean methane streams that include coalmine and coal bed methane, landfill gas, composting, and industrial digesters.
Mexican Energy Minister Georgina Kessel said Wednesday that state oil monopoly Petroleos Mexicanos needs the help of international oil companies, like the ones attending the International Energy Forum here, in order to reverse the decline in its crude output.
"The fields that we are approaching now in Mexico are much more difficult to access," she said at a news conference during a break in the forum's private meetings.
"What this means is that we require, in one way or another, the collaboration of other companies on an international level precisely in order to recuperate our levels of production," Kessel said.
She noted that crude output by Pemex, as the firm is known, peaked in 2004 at more than 3.3 million barrels per day on average, and is currently at about 2.6 million per day.
The "easy oil," as she has called it, is running out in part because of the decline of the supergiant Cantarell field in the Campeche Sound after decades of high production.
The fall in crude output "makes it necessary for us to incorporate better operating capacity at Petroleos Mexicanos, and we also need new technology," Kessel said.
Mexico's Pemex sues US companies for buying smuggled fuel
By Mica Rosenberg, Editing by Simon Webb / Reuters / May 31, 2011
Mexico's state-run oil company Pemex is suing eleven U.S. companies for buying up to $300 million of fuel stolen by drug gangs and smuggled across the U.S.-Mexico border, court documents showed.
Pemex's exploration and production (PEP) unit filed the suit on Sunday in a U.S. district court in Texas claiming some of the companies conspired with Mexican criminals to forge documents and smuggle the hijacked natural gas condensates.
"The defendants have participated and profited -- knowingly or unwittingly -- in the trafficking of stolen condensate in the United States and have thereby encouraged and facilitated the Mexican organized crime groups that stole the condensate," the complaint said.
Included on the list of alleged offenders are U.S. end users of the liquid fuel that can be easily refined into high-value oil products, including Plains All American Pipeline LP , SemGroup's SemCrude subsidiary and Western Refining . ...
Pemex Sues U.S. Firms for $300 Million in Stolen Fuel
By Laurel Brubaker Calkins / Bloomberg / June 2, 2011
A Petroleos Mexicanos unit sued 11 U.S. firms over claims they helped Mexican drug cartels smuggle and re-sell more than $300 million in natural gas liquids stolen from Mexico’s northern oilfields into the U.S.
Pemex Exploracion y Produccion claims in its complaint that businessmen from Texas and Utah conspired to sell its stolen natural gas condensate to U.S. end users, including Plains All American Pipeline LP (PAA), SemCrude LP and Western Refining Co. Those end users were “innocent” buyers of the condensate, according to the complaint.
“All of the defendants have participated and profited -- knowingly or unwittingly -- in the trafficking of stolen condensate in the United States and have thereby encouraged and facilitated the Mexican organized crime groups that stole the condensate,” Mark Maney, Pemex’s lawyer, said in the complaint filed May 29 in federal court in Houston.
“As long as there is a U.S. market for stolen Mexican condensate, the thievery will continue,” Maney said in the complaint.
Pemex accused owners of Saint James Oil Inc. of Sandy, Utah, and Superior Crude Gathering Inc. of Corpus Christi, Texas, of knowingly plotting with a trio of American businessmen who the company says have admitted to conspiring to smuggle stolen Mexican natural gas liquids into the U.S.
... Pemex said any U.S. firm buying Mexican condensate from a middleman must have known it might be trafficking in stolen property, as Mexican law has forbidden the sale of such product by anyone other than an official Pemex broker since 2006, according to the complaint. ...
Mexico's Pemex sues 9 US companies in oil thefts
Associated Press via Bloomberg / June 1, 2011
Mexico's state-owned oil company is suing 9 U.S. companies and two individuals for their purported involvement in buying or processing Mexican oil products that had been stolen by gangs.
... Two Texas oil company officials were convicted in 2010 of selling petroleum products stolen from Mexico.
Mexico says drug cartels and other criminals tap pipelines and siphon off hundreds of millions of dollars worth of oil each year.
timmac wrote:Why doesn't the Mexico's state-owned oil company sue the Mexican goverment [sic] as well
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Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
There are two general types of energy pipelines – oil pipelines and natural gas pipelines. Within each group are subsets that serve very specific portions of the energy marketplace.
Within the oil pipeline network there are both crude oil lines and refined product lines.
Crude oil is also subdivided in to 'Gathering Lines' and 'Trunk Lines.'
First, gathering lines are very small pipelines usually from 2 to 8 inches in diameter in the areas of the country in which crude oil is found deep within the earth. It is estimated that there are between 30,000 to 40,000 miles of these small gathering lines located primarily in Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Wyoming with small systems in a number of other oil producing states. These small lines gather the oil from many wells, both onshore and offshore, and connect to larger trunk lines measuring from 8 to 24 inches in diameter.
Trunk lines include a few very large lines, such as the Trans Alaska Pipeline System, which is 48 inches in diameter. The larger cross-country crude oil transmission pipelines bring crude oil from producing areas to refineries. There are approximately 55,000 miles of crude oil trunk lines in the U.S.
The next group of oil pipelines are those carrying refined petroleum products – gasoline, jet fuel, home heating oil and diesel fuel.
These refined product pipelines vary in size from relatively small 8 to 12 inch diameter lines up to 42 inches in diameter. Refined products pipelines are found in almost every state in the U.S, with the exception of some New England states. The total mileage nationwide of refined products pipelines is approximately 95,000 miles. These pipelines deliver petroleum products to large fuel terminals with storage tanks to be loaded into tanker trucks. Trucks cover the last few miles to make local deliveries to gas stations and homes. Major industries, airports and electrical power generation plants are supplied directly by pipeline.
Natural gas is found in many of the same areas of the country as crude oil and is collected through small gathering systems and moved to gas processing plants, where impurities are removed.
There are about 20,000 miles of natural gas gathering lines. The gathering lines move natural gas to large cross-country transmission pipelines. Including both onshore and offshore lines there are approximately 278,000 miles of natural gas transmission lines.
Natural gas, unlike oil, is delivered directly to homes and businesses through local distribution lines. Large distribution lines, called mains, move the gas close to cities. These main lines, along with the much smaller lines to homes and businesses, deliver natural under streets in almost every city and town and account for the vast majority of pipeline mileage in the U.S. – 1.8 million miles.
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