BahamasEd wrote:How much energy does it take to build a Very Large Crude Carrier? Or the other millions of items that the oil systems buy every year?
How much energy does it take to keep Saudi Arabia at peace so they can keep pumping oil?
How much energy does Rockman use in a year? Every other worker who has anything to do with finding/producing/refining and getting the end product to someone that's not involved in oil?
How many years, months or millennia will it take for the Etp clowns to try to answer these questions themselves, and maybe finally realise, as a result, that the so-called "EROI" is always fluctuating around 1?
How many years will it take for them to finally decide, whether a Very Large Crude Carrier is a part of "the economy", or "PPS" as they call it, or is outside of it; and if it is a part of "the economy", then the energy to produce Very Large Crude Carrier is irrelevant to the "EROI calculation" by definition; and if it is outside of "the economy", then their "Control Volumes" scheme is completely rubbish as they appear to be totally screwed about the boundaries and boundary conditions? When will they finally begin thinking about the boundaries, which should be the first step in that kind of modelling?
How many weeks before Etp clowns realise that the cost of keeping Saudi Arabia happy is invariable as far as energy balances is concerned (i.e. independent of physical depletion dynamics), and as such has no direct impact on the "EROI computation"? (Along with the cost of building a Very Large Crude Carrier btw).
And how many centuries before Etp clowns realise that this is not that other people are dumb, but to the contrary - that the Etps clowns are themselves are obvious shills or impenetrably stupid?