[Newfie]

But this isn't antiques, it's more like oxygen. You need it, in the right amount.

[Revi]

I was just using the antiques thing as a metaphor for what's happening. There were lots of antiques available, and cheaply just before they went out of business. I think that's what's happening to our society. Lots of cars, gasoline and stuff available and cheap prior to the big closing. There won't be any place to get any of that stuff when it all closes up.

It's like the Wal Mart closures. All the towns that lost all their businesses when they came in now are without a place to buy groceries and pharmacy items when they go out of business and leave their communities bereft.

[JimBof]

I was just using the antiques thing as a metaphor for what's happening. There were lots of antiques available, and cheaply just before they went out of business. I think that's what's happening to our society. Lots of cars, gasoline and stuff available and cheap prior to the big closing. There won't be any place to get any of that stuff when it all closes up.

It's like the Wal Mart closures. All the towns that lost all their businesses when they came in now are without a place to buy groceries and pharmacy items when they go out of business and leave their communities bereft.

I was talking to an artist Sunday. He used to have 7 galleries selling his paintings.Now he has 3. Half the art galleries in Australia have closed and half the antique stores. They are luxury items bought with excess cash. Less people have spare cash now.

[Revi]

That's for sure. Nobody has any money for anything beyond the necessities. We are making the tough choices now.
I think this is the way the collapse will happen, slowly and like the frog in the boiling pot of water we won't realize it until it's too late.

[Revi]

If you do have a hankering to get the message out, here is a film we're working on:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14 ... love-story

[AdamB]

If you do have a hankering to get the message out, here is a film we're working on:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14 ... love-story

Anything to supplant some of the older ones, can anyone even watch The End of Suburbia anymore without laughing about the entire meme it was attempting to generate? I like the promo for yours, guy in woods, Carharts, wood pile and little cabin in the background.

[Revi]

Thanks! I think the film will get the idea of peak oil across to people without being too "doomy". I think it could appeal to a wider audience. We just need to get the editing done and get it out there!

[AdamB]

That's for sure. Nobody has any money for anything beyond the necessities.

Like new cars.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-car-sal ... 1451999939

U.S. consumers continued to shift from cars, including sedans and hatchbacks, to SUVs, crossovers and trucks.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-a ... C620160105

In particular necessities like those trucks, gotta have pickmeup trucks.

Need flowers on Valentines day as well, all time record necessity as well.

https://www.fundivo.com/stats/valentine ... tatistics/

And pet products, absolute necessity for modern Americans, I mean, no one needs a new iphone:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/ ... 43efed5ef0

but our pets, those are important.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/110151-a ... sed-to-see

$60 billion for those pets, I know mine is a necessity, couldn't live without 4 legged friends.

We are making the tough choices now.

Yup....do I get the new car, especially a pickup, and do I shower my pets with custom fit sweaters, or maybe buy a couple dozen roses for the lady, and the new iphone just came out, I mean, what do I do! Tough choices! Texas Roadhouse or Ruth Chris for the wife's birthday! Chili's or Chipotle for lunch tomorrow!

Where to road trip! I mean, I can only drive 8000 miles on my next roadtrip on $250 of gasoline (strict budget here, planning on taking that new iPhone with me), but I could double that if I just kept last years iphone...I mean...TOUGH choice...you betcha!

I think this is the way the collapse will happen, slowly and like the frog in the boiling pot of water we won't realize it until it's too late.

..and the frog buying new cars and valentines day presents and making sure that more money is spent on one's pets than the gross national product of...Uruguay?

I'm thinking this kind of collapse says more about the GDP of Uruguay and what American's think of their pets than collapse? Oh, and cars, Americans love their cars.

[Revi]

Great stuff Adam B! I love the stuff we are figuring out! Around here you might not find that many people using some of those services. They are still hooked on cars, however. I swear whenever someone around here finds out that they can get a new truck and not pay anything for a year they will go for it. It's a big part of the culture. Meanwhile we drive around in an electric car. It must seem really strange. It is a little strange. That's why the film might be something that people will be amused at, at least. We are almost half way there now. We have 10 days to go.
Thanks to all who have given! We are on our way now!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14 ... love-story

[ennui2]

AdamB must not believe in AGW, otherwise he wouldn't be so giddy at the thought of driving 8000 miles to visit each and every the Ruth Chris steakhouses?

It's called hyperbole, something you're an expert at in your own way.

[Revi]

We got funding to make the film! Anything from here on in we'll use for promotion and better music. Thanks! I guess there are still a few people who want to get the message out.

[onlooker]

We got funding to make the film! Anything from here on in we'll use for promotion and better music. Thanks! I guess there are still a few people who want to get the message out.

I think it is safe to say I speak for many on this site, when I say congratulations. Keep fighting the good fight.

[Revi]

Thanks! We are working on editing the 60 hours of film that we took over the past 12 years. It will be a fun movie and will probably be in film festivals this summer.

[Pops]

I really think this is a stretch:
“I argue that, for some white male participants, the peak oil movement and similar survivalist phenomena provided one means of reinscribing “traditional” (read: 1950s) gender roles and revitalizing white masculinity. ”

Excerpt From: Matthew Schneider-Mayerson. “Peak Oil.” iBooks. https://itun.es/us/UA-g-.l

I don't know, seems most of the few still posting here are bitter old white men in red caps.
I think he pretty well nailed it.

[Newfie]

I don’t know, I classify myself as a FOG (Fat Old Guy), but my cap is yellow. Maybe that because I’m full of bile? I prefer to think it’s because of my Dunn disposition!

More seriously I see the political spectrum as pretty well represented.

[Revi]

The peak oil movement is not dead, but it's on life support. Funny how it dwindled. Meanwhile we are actually hitting some resource limits finally. I'm sure some of the trolls are going to jump on this post!

[Outcast_Searcher]

The peak oil movement is not dead, but it's on life support. Funny how it dwindled. Meanwhile we are actually hitting some resource limits finally. I'm sure some of the trolls are going to jump on this post!

But of course. Anyone with a differing point of view, even one who points out objective facts, is a "troll".

Speaking of facts, care to name the list of the biggest resource limits we're hitting, and why you think so? For controversial ones, credible citations would be nice.

[Revi]

The peak oil movement is not dead, but it's on life support. Funny how it dwindled. Meanwhile we are actually hitting some resource limits finally. I'm sure some of the trolls are going to jump on this post!

But of course. Anyone with a differing point of view, even one who points out objective facts, is a "troll".

Speaking of facts, care to name the list of the biggest resource limits we're hitting, and why you think so? For controversial ones, credible citations would be nice.

Right on cue. Thanks. Here is one:

https://ourfiniteworld.com/2019/01/09/2 ... urbulence/