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Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby peeker01 » Fri 09 Sep 2011, 20:34:11

Here you go guys. Coal is bad, everybody knows that. Tar sands are really bad. Nuclear is really,
really bad. Now there is a new study saying that Natural Gas is bad too. Looks like we will all
be on foot if the enviros gets their way.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/211469/ ... arming.htm
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby AgentR11 » Fri 09 Sep 2011, 21:15:30

BICYCLES.

You don't need to wander around on foot.

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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby peeker01 » Fri 09 Sep 2011, 21:17:31

Somebody needs to tidy up their back yard.
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby AgentR11 » Fri 09 Sep 2011, 21:36:57

peeker01 wrote:Somebody needs to tidy up their back yard.


Sorry, requested action prohibited by copious redneck genes.
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby peeker01 » Fri 09 Sep 2011, 21:39:33

"Get in the truck Sis"
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby AgentR11 » Fri 09 Sep 2011, 21:46:06

Sorry, Sis is too mean to be allowed in my truck.
I has scars.
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby Sys1 » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 12:02:31

AgentR11 : Nice bike :)
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby The Practician » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 12:45:18

AgentR11 wrote:BICYCLES.

You don't need to wander around on foot.

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I'd rather wander around on foot than be seen on that dorkmobile! Do you wrap a reflective bracelet around your ankle so you don't get grease on your khakis on the way to work? :razz:



Internet sarcasm disclaimer: I am a cyclist and bike mechanic, and own something like 6 bikes and no car.
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 13:04:55

The Practician wrote:I'd rather wander around on foot than be seen on that dorkmobile! Do you wrap a reflective bracelet around your ankle so you don't get grease on your khakis on the way to work?


Bah! I is redneck. I don't do khakis.

But the "dorkmobile" is even more interesting when you note that it has a garage door opener wired to the handle bar, eyeblinding front lights, a Christmas tree on the back end, and a RAM mount for my droid so I can blast jpop through my stereo bluetooth (almost loud enough to make my ears bleed, very satisfying for a child of 80s metal...) while watching its gps moving map system track my position and power output. Thinking about getting a zephyr bluetooth HRM just to add that extra geek factor.

** dang, reads like a TV car add for biker geeks. I think I need me an NRA sticker.
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby The Practician » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 13:14:57

AgentR11 wrote:
The Practician wrote:I'd rather wander around on foot than be seen on that dorkmobile! Do you wrap a reflective bracelet around your ankle so you don't get grease on your khakis on the way to work?


Bah! I is redneck. I don't do khakis.

But the "dorkmobile" is even more interesting when you note that it has a garage door opener wired to the handle bar, eyeblinding front lights, a Christmas tree on the back end, and a RAM mount for my droid so I can blast jpop through my stereo bluetooth (almost loud enough to make my ears bleed, very satisfying for a child of 80s metal...) while watching its gps moving map system track my position and power output. Thinking about getting a zephyr bluetooth HRM just to add that extra geek factor.

** dang, reads like a TV car add for biker geeks. I think I need me an NRA sticker.


Damn, you really are out there beyond the pale of bike dorkitude! My commuters are built out of garbage.
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby kublikhan » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 16:16:20

We've know for awhile that particulates released by coal have a cooling effect. However I think the acid rain, smog, and increased co2 of coal still makes it a less desirable energy source. Coal really is one of dirtiest energy sources we have. The sooner we get off coal the better.
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby The Practician » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 16:26:49

kublikhan wrote:We've know for awhile that particulates released by coal have a cooling effect. However I think the acid rain, smog, and increased co2 of coal still makes it a less desirable energy source. Coal really is one of dirtiest energy sources we have. The sooner we get off coal the better.


Hey. This thread is about bikes now. stop trying to derail it!
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby peeker01 » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 17:03:22

Here's my bike. 3 MPG. No fag saddlebags either.

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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 17:52:02

peeker01 wrote:Here's my bike. 3 MPG. No fag saddlebags either.
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That's the neat thing about being a right wing nut, I'm happy for the hummer lovers, and the racing motorcycle lovers, and the sports car lovers, and the minivan lovers and the bicycle lovers. As long as they're enjoying themselves and operating their vehicles in a reasonably safe manner, its all awesome.

I'm still not quite sure I understand this association of sexual orientation with vehicle design and accessories, but hey, long as you're having fun.

nb... Who said I wanted to be environmentally friendly?
I love NG... and coal, and petrol, and nukes, and wind, and solar, and hydro.....
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby peeker01 » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 17:57:42

Well good, Agent, now that I know you have an open mind, I'll show you my wife's car.


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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby The Practician » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 18:01:32

GASMON wrote:Where does the steel come from to make your bike frame ?
Where does the Aluminum (Aluminium in England !!) come from to make your wheels ?
Yes, Nat gas is bad. (worked with it for 42 years)
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My commuter is built out of bicycles I literally pulled out of the garbage, and my other commuter is built out of mostly secondhand parts too, except I paid for them at the bike shop I used to work at that deals in salvage. is there something not environmentally friendly about keeping useful appliances that reduce dependence on fossil fuels out of landfills?
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 18:09:12

Isn't that just a school bus painted black with the bad seats removed?
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby peeker01 » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 18:09:42

There will be a special place for you in heaven my son for recycling bicycles.
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Re: Natural Gas Is Bad

Unread postby The Practician » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 18:12:13

AgentR11 wrote:
That's the neat thing about being a right wing nut, I'm happy for the hummer lovers, and the racing motorcycle lovers, and the sports car lovers, and the minivan lovers and the bicycle lovers. As long as they're enjoying themselves and operating their vehicles in a reasonably safe manner, its all awesome.
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I "like" cars too. my only problem with them is I am almost certain that in the relatively near future, they will cease to be a viable form of mass transportation. Sure, there will probably be a few decades of the "poor" carpooling and whatnot while the top 20% pat themselves on the back for driving "green" luxury hybrids or whatever, but in the end it will all be for naught.
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