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Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby vox_mundi » Fri 12 Jan 2018, 10:39:47

US Issues Highest Travel Warning for Five Mexican States

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MEXICO CITY — Five states in Mexico have gotten the sternest “do not travel” advisories under a revamped U.S. State Department system unveiled Wednesday.
The State Department had previously discouraged travel to all or part of the five states’ territories but the new warnings are sterner, placing the drug- and crime-plagued states on the same warning level as Somalia, Yemen, Syria or Afghanistan.

The five Level 4 states are the northern border state of Tamaulipas and the Pacific coast states of Sinaloa, Colima, Michoacan and Guerrero.
In the case of Tamaulipas, it says that gun battles are widespread and warn of travel by both public and private bus as armed criminal groups take passengers hostage and demand ransom payments.

"Local law enforcement has limited capability to respond to violence in many parts of the state," it says.

Sinaloa, where criminal gangs such as the Sinaloa cartel are active, is particularly dangerous.

The state department warns that "in Guerrero state, armed groups operate independently of the government in many areas". It adds: "Members of these groups frequently maintain roadblocks and may use violence towards travellers."

Its website also states that US government employees are prohibited from travelling to the entire state of Guerrero, including Acapulco.

The resort town was once a glamorous destination, but in recent years it has had one of the highest murder rates in the country.

Mexico as a whole has a Level 2 rating, “exercise increased caution,” in the new four-level alert system, because of concerns about crime.

But an additional 11 of the 31 Mexican states get a Level 3 warning, “reconsider travel.” They are: Chihuahua, Coahuila, Durango, Jalisco, Mexico, Morales, Nayarit, Nuevo Leon, San Luis Potosi, Sonora and Zacatecas.

The popular beach resorts of Los Cabos, Cancun and Cozumel are all in Level 2 states but the one-time tourist hot spots of Mazatlan and Acapulco are in Level 4 states.

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Hanging Bodies Found Near Los Cabos Tourist Areas

Six bodies were found hanging from bridges near major tourist areas in Los Cabos late Wednesday.

Two of the bodies were found near Los Cabos International Airport, hanging from a bridge in Las Veredas, while two more were on a bridge on the highway between Cabo San Lucas and San Jose del Cabo, Reuters reports. Two more bodies were found on a third bridge near the airport. While authorities have not released details on what happened to the men, drug gangs often hang the bodies of their murdered victims publicly in order to intimidate rivals. Fueled by drug gang violence, 2017 is on pace to become Mexico’s deadliest year in modern history.


Shootouts Over Weekend Near Acapulco, Los Cabos; Security Updates

A series of shootouts over the weekend killed 18 people, including community police, near Acapulco and Los Cabos, Mexico.

According to ABC News, seven people were killed in San Jose del Cabo Saturday night when marines responding to reports of gunfire encountered heavily armed men in tactical vests in two vehicles with California license plates. A car chase ensued, after which the vehicles crashed and all seven people in the cars were shot dead by the marines. In a separate incident in La Conception, which is near Acapulco, eight people were killed when gunmen ambushed community police. Two of those dead were from the community police force. Later that morning, when state police arrived to disarm the local agents, another shootout ensued in which three more people were killed. At this time it is unclear how those three died. 30 members of the community police force have been detained on suspicion of crimes ranging from homicide to illegal weapons and drug possession.
“There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.” ― Leonardo da Vinci

Insensible before the wave so soon released by callous fate. Affected most, they understand the least, and understanding, when it comes, invariably arrives too late.
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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby dissident » Fri 12 Jan 2018, 17:03:08

Interesting how Mexico went down hill into a drug civil war when it took over the role of Columbia as the prime supplier/conduit to the USA. Looks like Columbia was in a similar drug civil war even though it was cast in the guise of a leftist rebellion. Another dope supplier with serious domestic issues can be found in South Asia, namely Afghanistan. Dope pushers cannot get along with each other. This is true at any scale, from the organization scale, to the street scale. These vermin are always shooting each other over their precious business.
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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby pstarr » Fri 12 Jan 2018, 18:58:05

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Sad what happened to Mexico City :cry: :P
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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby vox_mundi » Fri 12 Jan 2018, 20:46:55

“There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.” ― Leonardo da Vinci

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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby pstarr » Fri 12 Jan 2018, 20:53:33

Nice pix from Texas. That's not Mexico.
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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby dissident » Fri 12 Jan 2018, 23:15:40

You wouldn't post some stupid tourist photo, pstarr, if you knew personally anyone murdered by a druggie in Mexico City.

That was back in the early 2000s. Mexico City was much safer before the drug running operations moved north from South America.

If you think Mexico is doing just dandy, please go on a vacation to any of the regions where "you do not see any problems".
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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby rockdoc123 » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 00:05:21

If you think Mexico is doing just dandy, please go on a vacation to any of the regions where "you do not see any problems".


Do you actually regularly go to Mexico or is this just some rant from someone sitting on the outside who has actually never been there?
Pretty much every year we go somewhere in Mexico, it is our chosen destination for various reasons. The crap that is going on down there is mostly gang on gang. People get caught up in this because they are in the wrong place at the wrong time. Most people in Mexico are not much different than anywhere else in the world...they are good people, mostly Christian who want to raise a family. They got caught up in the drogo cartels but to a large extent if they were not involved in some way they are left alone unless they end up being in a club at the wrong time.
The press talks about lots of bad things but spending lots of time down there and keeping my head around not being in the wrong place at the wrong time it has all been pretty good.
If you want to go to Tijuana and buy drugs then you are in a different experience than someone who wants to just go to a resort and relax or someone who wants to explore the Maya antiquities.
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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby pstarr » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 01:00:14

maybe diss got burned in a bad drug deal?
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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby Cog » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 09:02:31

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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby GASMON » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 10:20:47

Are they Trumps nuclear buttons Cog ?

Biggest Shithole in the Americas is Trumps mouth.

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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby Cog » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 10:28:23

GASMON wrote:Are they Trumps nuclear buttons Cog ?

Biggest Shithole in the Americas is Trumps mouth.

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Sorry your girl lost. How is that London Muslim mayor working out for you guys?

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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby dissident » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 10:39:00

So much love for drug mafia run Mexico. Americans really do live in a bubble of delusion totally cut off from reality.

Cog, you retard, it was one of my friends that got murdered in Mexico.

I wonder why the mighty US does not fight the drug runners in Mexico. It tries to foist regime change on Russia and other countries. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the American elite is a full participant in the drug running. This would be consistent with the re-appearance of heroin production after the US intervention in Afghanistan.
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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby Cog » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 10:43:38

dissident wrote:So much love for drug mafia run Mexico. Americans really do live in a bubble of delusion totally cut off from reality.

Cog, you retard, it was one of my friends that got murdered in Mexico.

I wonder why the mighty US does not fight the drug runners in Mexico. It tries to foist regime change on Russia and other countries. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the American elite is a full participant in the drug running. This would be consistent with the re-appearance of heroin production after the US intervention in Afghanistan.


I have zero idea what you are talking about. Mexico is a *hithole as President Trump has alluded to. I am agreeing with you. Perhaps you meant someone else in your response.
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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby GASMON » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 11:05:20

Cog wrote:
GASMON wrote:Are they Trumps nuclear buttons Cog ?

Biggest Shithole in the Americas is Trumps mouth.

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Sorry your girl lost. How is that London Muslim mayor working out for you guys?

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That guy has a bigger shithole than Trump.

This from todays news

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... on-protest

Anyway,no point arguing who has the worst politicians - name me a good one - I can't.

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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby Cog » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 11:11:09

The difference Gasmon, is our president is calling out *hithole countries for what they are. Your politicians are inviting them in and arresting anyone who disagrees on a hate speech crime. Enjoy your Muslim overlords. May Sharia law rest lightly on you and your women.
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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby pstarr » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 15:29:42

Cog wrote:The difference Gasmon, is our president is calling out *hithole countries for what they are. Your politicians are inviting them in and arresting anyone who disagrees on a hate speech crime. Enjoy your Muslim overlords. May Sharia law rest lightly on you and your women.

jesus, you are a racist. Have you ever been to an African country? They are not all Muslim you know.

I actually had the good fortune of taking a trip to Morocco recently. (My friend works there). It was a lovely place. One fond memory was of the trains and buses. Modern, clean, on time, and safe. My trip ended in Philidelphia. That was more of a third world experience.
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Re: Mexico - Failed State?

Unread postby Cog » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 16:58:08

There are two possibilities here pstarr.

1) They are not *hithole countries and therefore there is no reason for them to leave and come here

2) They are *hithole countries in which case we don't want their people coming here.

Pick one. CNN is having problems with this and doesn't know how to respond. I figured a world traveler like yourself could clear this up for me.

Oh and Muslim isn't a race by the way.
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