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Pops wrote:Point being (for me at least) is not to get caught up in the hype of change without examining the underpinning.
Ludi wrote:I've not noticed any "hype of change," I've mainly seen people fighting against any idea of change, let alone actually implementing change.
oowolf wrote:Dependency and ignorance will be no defense against what I believe Pops called "reversion to the mean".
Pops wrote:If so add me to the list as well - I'm stuck in first.
Ludi wrote: I'm no expert, as I say, I'm just a citizen presenting some ideas, which people correctly see as absolute crapola.
Ludi wrote:Maybe TheTurtle will discuss more what he sees as the "essential paradigm shift."
oowolf wrote:The present standing crop of humanity is mostly pathologically dependent on fossil fuel and wilfully(?) perhaps criminally ignorant of what constitutes "real" life.
Dependency and ignorance will be no defense against what I believe Pops called "reversion to the mean".
Pops wrote: Change for the sake of reducing our easy boredom. Change for the sake of rejection of the status quo.
That’s why we butt heads sometimes Ludi – though I described myself as a LUDIte in my first post here and we talk about the same actions and methods for the most part, I have suspicions about any published, packaged, promoted, and paid for ‘New Paradigm” – I guess because advertising for other’s “Better Deal” supports me in the current one!
TheTurtle wrote:I wasn't saddened by Kochevnik's criticism of a couple of trendy ecovillages, in fact I agree that driving a Ford 4x4 PU is not exactly Earth-friendly.
Raxozanne wrote:Like the slaves of the Romans or the peasants in Feudal times someone would be oppressed.
Ludi wrote:I hope you don't think my moniker refers to Luddite/Luddism! It refers to "ludicrous."
TheTurtle wrote:I wonder, though, if making money off the tourists isn't just something to fill in until more sustainable methods are developed. After all, last month I was down in what I take to be your neck of the woods, where I bought some fruit and vegetables from a roadside stand run by a Mennonite farmer and his daughter.
Am I making myself clear?
Ludi wrote:I'll feel more sceptical of PO when the needed changes are being done on the needed scale.
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