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Let's Discuss Peak Oil For A Change

General discussions of the systemic, societal and civilisational effects of depletion.

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Re: Let's Discuss Peak Oil For A Change

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 12:45:24

The Iraq is about having war to the east of Iran.
The Afgan war is is about having war to the west of Iran.
There is no declared war in Pakistan the same way QE2 wasn't declared as bailout.
'US never told govt don't build Iran pipeline'
Pramit Pal Chaudhuri / Hindustan Times / Apr 17, 2011


The United States government has never told the Indian government directly that it does not want the Iran-Pakistan-India natural gas pipeline to be built. "They have said it isn't a good thing in public," said high level sources. "But never to us directly - possibly because they know the answer they would get."

Post-peak existence is about fighting of the last scraps of the 20th Century.
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Re: Let's Discuss Peak Oil For A Change

Unread postby Cloud9 » Sun 31 Jul 2011, 07:00:23

Sweet. I had my first succesful run of my waste oil foundary a couple of days ago.

The next project will be a wood gas generator to run my shop’s electrical system. The Mother Earth News blue prints are the most detailed. It involves cannibalizing four hot water heaters. The FEMA blue prints are more general and can be scaled down to lower horse power applications. I think the first run will be based on the FEMA plans.
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Re: Let's Discuss Peak Oil For A Change

Unread postby kildred590 » Sun 31 Jul 2011, 09:10:50

peripato wrote:
You have a finite resource, you tap it, it declines.

Actually, first it goes up. Then it declines. Or maybe it goes up, and stabilizes? For years. And then declines. And the increases again. And then increases alot! And then declines. And declines some more. And then goes up some more!
It isn't quite so simple as Hubbert demonstrated I think.


Maybe for nickel or lead.
But for conventional oil the output hits a peak and then declines about halfway.
Hubbert proved this with the peaks in SW USA and the North Sea.

Conventional oil peaked in 2005.
The only reason there hasn't been any big price increase is that non-conventional has had time to make up the gap, because of the GFC.
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