LENR, Rossi and the ECAT Thread pt 2 (merged)

[TheAntiDoomer]

The Peak Oil Crisis: Technology Update

http://www.fcnp.com/commentary/national ... pdate.html

This situation may be changing, however, for one of these two companies, a Greece-based organization called Defkalion, say they have arranged for teams of outside investigators to come in later this week and test their device. If this series of tests by outside scientists do take place, we should at least have some sort of independent verification that these "cold fusion" devices are for real, and not a scam as many believe.

[Schadenfreude]

All this new technology seems to say there may be some hope for life after oil. For now the two biggies seem to be cold fusion and cheap hydrogen, but neither of these are as yet sure for the immediate future. It seems likely we are going to have much more efficient motor vehicle within the next 10 years and probably longer range electric vehicles. There might even be enough biofuels to run our airplanes.

[pstarr]

Blinky is back..............

who's blinky?

[vision-master]

Another shorty.......... lol

[pstarr]

Another shorty.......... lol

NO Doesn't the short do the debunk? The short was usually wont to promote other techno-fantasies, such as NG

[TheAntiDoomer]

^BTW did you notice the author of the LENR article was no other than Uber-Doomer Tom Whipple, he is sounding quite hopeful these days! :D

[kublikhan]

who's blinky?

I believe Blinky said he lost a buttload of money on a free energy scam. So now he trolls every free energy thread with off topic crap and adhoms. I can sympathize with getting scammed out of your money, and disliking someone pushing a free energy scam, but reading a thread filled with troll spam gets old after awhile. Now everytime he gets banned he creates a new account, just like shorty. NedLudd is the latest incarnation.

[pstarr]

^BTW did you notice the author of the LENR article was no other than Uber-Doomer Tom Whipple, he is sounding quite hopeful these days! :D

Actually no. Because I don't find this subject interesting. I just drop in occasionally to this thread to see what the fringe element is up to. Anti, are you having a freaky-deaky beavis day?

[NedLudd]

Vortex

Indeed, it looks like that Dick-head had anticipated that Rossi will decline
his offer as he did (no surprise here!)

I have been in contact with Blinky and he says that he is somewhat peeved that Banana Man is allowed to say rude things about Dick Smith.
Blinky says that he was banned for speaking the truth and he never said nuffin rude unlike BM who said a lot of VERY rude things indeed.
I am looking forward to my million dollar electric kettle.
I will be able to have a nice cup of tea and a lie down.
They'll never replace the horse and cart.
Ned

[Schadenfreude]

I will be able to have a nice cup of tea and a lie down.

Don't forget the Vaseline.

[NedLudd]

How rude.
Will moderators kindly put a gag on Banana Man until he can learn to clean up his potty mouth.
Thank you.

[NedLudd]

NO CAUSE FOR ALARM

Rossi Says E-Scat is Absolutely Safe — “There Will Never Be” Gamma Rays Emitted
February 9, 2012
Safety concerns regarding the E-Scat have to be of primary concern to Andrea Rossi as he pursues his commercialization strategy. His explicit goal is to install E-Scats in millions of homes to provide heat and (eventually) electricity — in order to do this there will have to be assurances to customers and regulators that the devices pose no safety risk to users.
IT IS COMPLETELY SAFE
Rossi has said that his Leonardo Corporation is in the process of seeking certification for from Underwriters Laboratories in the US and are in the process of submitting the E-Scat for safety testing. Rossi recently made the following comment regarding safety when asked if it was possible to use an E-Scat safely in an apartment:
TRUST ME, I'M A DOCTOR ( I got a mail order certifikate to prove it)
1- The E-Scat is absolutely safe, does not emit absolutely any kind of radiation in the room: we made thousands of hours of tests. You can install with absolute safety an E-Scat inside your room.
2- There will never be any kind of gamma emission, but our control panel will detect any kind of radiation anyway, and in case of detection of any kind of radiation above the background will stop the E-Scat. But, again we never detected radiations above the background outside the E-Scat ( Background radiation is the radiation you have in your room right noew, coming from the Universe and Cosmic water and shit like that).

Rossi has consistently refused to provide details of what is going on inside the ES-Scat reactor, but he has mentioned that gamma rays have been detected. Recently in a video interview when asked about whether the E-Scat was a ‘cold fusion’ technology he said, “we have found traces of confusion because we have found 511 kevin gamma rays at the output, which is the emission of a positron, a wallytron and an hardon, and a positron is the product of a proton turning into a newtron, so we have some kind ofcon fusion inside, but I do not think this is the main energy source.” Exactly how these gamma rays are shielded is not clear, but Rossi has mentioned in the past that lead paint is used.

So Rossi seems very confident that they have solved the safety problem, but it will be down to regulators, who will no doubt be very rigorous in their examination of this new kind of nuclear reactor, to give it a seal of safety approval.

NOTHING CAN POSSIBLY GO WRO.............

[Schadenfreude]

PESN

On February 11 and 12, I was able to witness a 5 kilowatt (enough to power a home without central air conditioning, conservatively) fuel-free generator in Johannesburg and to meet the inventor and some of the principle players in helping him bring this technology to market.

As mentioned in my previous story on this matter, the South African company invited me to come see the technology first-hand so that I would not be making a statement along the lines of "they claim...", or "if this is real...", but so that I would be able to speak from personal experience after witnessing the technology in operation. They also offered to sell me a unit that I could personally test, promising to refund the cost if it did not perform as claimed...

What I Saw

What I witnessed, along with three other scientists that I brought along -- all more qualified than myself -- was a 5 kW unit powered by four batteries, running for three hours continuous, driving a load of approximately 4 KW. According to the amp-hour rating of those batteries (102 Ah each), without being recharged from an external source, they should have lasted only 35 minutes before running down completely, no longer able to power the system.

The load was roughly 4 kW, comprised of:

- a two-burner stove, each burner consuming 1 kW (rated power according to manufacturer)
- a toaster that consumed 850 Watts (rated power)
- a pancake maker that consumes 1 kW (rated power)
- A 40-Watt fan (rated power)

The total output was as high as 5 kW, as long as the generator was turned at 3000 rpm, and there was sufficient load.

Another privately-funded energy start-up company; not accepting investors. Good, detailed description.

[AgentR11]

I'll be looking for one at the hardware store shortly, about that size.

Somehow, I got a feeling, I won't find any of these "fuel free" things for sale.

[Schadenfreude]

But the eternal question is always: Why are they doing it?

[pstarr]

free fuel? hum? I guess we can all go back home. The energy war is over! hurray!

[Schadenfreude]

Plans for Roll-out

The company plans to focus at first on producing the 5 kW system. They have several customers lined up, including some multi-national companies with strong name recognition, who will be testing their first 200 units built, set to begin in March. They will continue to produce 200 units/month for the S. African market, increasing this to 500/month by the end of the year.

They showed us a cabinet with 200 circuits they have prepared to go into those first 200 units. The 5 kW system we were observing was actually a test system to make sure each of those circuits has been built properly.

After the customers have run those first units for thirty days, 1) they will purchase them if they are satisfied with their performance, and 2) they will publish a report of the performance of these devices, to be included in their promotional material, both for potential licensees (more detailed) and for the public (simplified).

If the outcomes of those tests are sufficiently positive, then the company will do a big press conference or launch event to announce the product to the world.

After the 5 kW system is proven, then the company will next focus on rolling out larger sizes.

[seahorse3]

Witnessed in Africa? Sounds like another version of the Nigerian scam.

[AgentR11]

But the eternal question is always: Why are they doing it?

Money. Of course.

Let us know when they have one for sale at the hardware store.

[diemos]

How's that E-cat running?