pstarr wrote: Do you really believe Maddog, a middle level manager at a filthy tar-sands operation is a the final word on modern science?
Maddogs expertise veers into the technical as well as the managerial, and he has mentioned his work in shale gas quite extensively, and has experience pertinent to any question about the oil and gas business in general, particularly when compared to those who simply make up whatever fanciful story they wish and pretend its true. So yes....around here...unless contradicted by RocDoc or the like, is quite definitive.
Fossil-fuel have been cheap for generations and we’ve lost respect for this one-time planetary gift. Soon we will not have the luxury of pricing a pint of precious gasoline less than a beer.
Such is the claim...and at PO+5, I'm not even sure the inaccuracy of it matters anymore. Crude has been trending more expensive for 2 generations now, the other fossil fuels I haven't researched. But lets say that the BTU weighted average of all fossil fuel use has been "cheap" for generations....I would only venture that it is good that we have so much more left as we continue our transition to a cleaner and more renewable future.
Surely this makes sense to even you? With substantial supplies remaining to be tapped ( of fossil fuels, not just crude ) we have many options and quite a bit of time to decide what to transition into. Nukes, renewable, solar mixes perhaps?
pstarr wrote:Eroei is only really valid measure of primary energy acquisition.
In some alternate universe perhaps. Certainly humans don't use it that way in this one.
pstarr wrote:Your other remarks, here and in other discussions, are once again therefore suspect
How nice of you to refute me without using foul language! You are to be applauded for your restraint.....but as far as my remarks being suspect...well....I do try and stick to facts, and a minimum of speculation. Are you concerned with any particular facts related, in this thread, to how key oil figures were distorted, or how the timing of such a claim, might have been only a cheap shot without substantiation?