Exploring Hydrocarbon Depletion
ROCKMAN wrote:vt - I don't know: I've time in various world class sh*t around the planet where the typical poor American would be classified as upper middle class to rich. LOL
vtsnowedin wrote:ralfy wrote:Also, most people worldwide earn only a few dollars a day and lack one or more basic needs.
That statement strikes me as being off the mark. If "most people" which would be more then 3.5 billion to be "most", lack "one or more basic needs" and they continue to live year in and year out and are in fact multiplying then these basic needs are not needs or basic at least in the way or in the volumes the statistician supposes. Obviously their true Base needs have been met or they would have already died.
That is not to say these people don't like in deplorable conditions of poverty ,hunger and thirst but I haven't got a clue as to what can be done about it that isn't abhorrent.
DesuMaiden wrote:Just as a side note, I don't take the OP seriously. Copious. Abundance seriously has some mental issues ..
copious.abundance wrote:DesuMaiden wrote:Just as a side note, I don't take the OP seriously. Copious. Abundance seriously has some mental issues ..
The irony of DesuMaiden accusing someone else of having mental issues, cannot be overstated.
ROCKMAN wrote:D - Copious does make a somewhat valid point. Taking shots at someone's personality instead of just bitch slapping them with facts is a more effective way of countering bullsh*t. Anyway that's how I usually try to respond to him. LOL.
DesuMaiden wrote:ROCKMAN wrote:D - Copious does make a somewhat valid point. Taking shots at someone's personality instead of just bitch slapping them with facts is a more effective way of countering bullsh*t. Anyway that's how I usually try to respond to him. LOL.
Copious Abundance is pretty much one of the ignorant folks thinking technology will solve anything. He completely ignores the fact that human technology cannot overturn the laws of nature because technology is restricted by natural resource limitations. If you run out of a certain resource, you simply cannot make anymore of a certain technology. For example, we are running out of rare earth elements, causing them to become more scarce and expensive meaning computers will become more expensive in the future (in addition to the fact that oil is becoming more scarce and expensive, and oil is necessary for the construction of computers). Copious Abundance ignores science and evidence, and instead believes that a sci-fi hi-tech world is possible despite the laws of nature saying it is not.
There is literally nothing in any combination that can replace the edifice built by fossil fuels. Everything from cars, computers, planes, trucks, clothing, cosmetics, plastics and countless products (almost everything you own) is made of fossil fuels, so if you take away the fossil fuels, say bye bye to most things you own.
copious.abundance wrote:Time for another update!
Data is through March. Just a hair under 80 million barrels/day!
copious.abundance wrote:Remember that "peak oil" thing that was supposed to happen around, like, 2008? Or 2011? Or whenever it was?
Dybbuk wrote:copious.abundance wrote:Remember that "peak oil" thing that was supposed to happen around, like, 2008? Or 2011? Or whenever it was?
CA, have you ever made any specific predictions of future oil production levels?
If so, can you post a link so that we can critique your forecasts (in whatever time frame they apply to)?
Or are you like the guy who, after the Super Bowl, goes onto forums and rags on whoever picked the losing team, without having made a prediction yourself?
copious.abundance wrote:Do I need to point out how many times someone here told me we were past peak, and that production was about to fall off a permanent cliff? And how many times I was scoffed at and ridiculed because I thought production would reach new highs in the future?
The EIA’s Short-Term Energy Outlook came out a few days ago. That is where they try to guess the future production and price for oil, for the USA as well as the world. As of late they seem to be getting a little timid with their predictions. They are saying not much growth is happening until the fourth quarter of 2016, and only a slight bump then.
This chart is Non-OPEC Total Liquids in million barrels per day. Production of N.O Liquids surged upwards from September of 2012 until December 2014, gaining 6.38 million barrels per day in those 27 months. That’s an average increase of 236,000 barrels per day per month. But then in January 2015 there was a drop of 800,000 bpd.
Non-OPEC total liquids still have not reached that December high again but the EIA thinks they will by August. I have my doubts. I also think they have their April and May liquids production estimates a little too high here. I have their predictions here starting in June though the EIA starts their projection in July. But there is no way that June production is anything but a guess here, and a bad guess at that.
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