Newfie wrote:Agreed, which is why 2-3° is baked in, certain.
All we can really expect to do is to try to figure out how to survive.
Sort of like musical chairs except 90% of the chairs will suddenly be withdrawn, and the standees get no food thereafter.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
dohboi wrote:Nicely put. So how do incentivize the incentivizers!!??
baha wrote:Good point DB,
The question becomes how do we incentivize the masses to view 'reduce, reuse, recycle' as a desirable activity that we all pursue.
Plantagenet wrote:dohboi wrote:We are officially on track to hit 5 to 6 degrees by the end of this century. The deals being cut in Paris would reduce that to 3 - 3.5.
Not according to the IPCC. The IPCC says the Paris treaty will have ZERO effect, i.e. we will still hit 5-6° C.
MIT also ran the numbers, and they estimate a T reduction of 0.2°C from the Paris accord, i.e. 4.8-5.8° C by 2100.
Of course those people are just scientists-----I bet if Obama cut their funding a bit and they'd change those numbers to what Obama wants to hear.
AND of course thats also assuming every country meets its voluntary targets. Judging from the way almost every nation failed to keep their targets under the voluntary Kyoto Accord---thats highly unlikely.
CHEERS!
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
baha wrote:We just need a responsible leader
baha wrote:Or we could all take it upon ourselves to do the right thing. Problem is most people's view of the right thing is the result of the existing propaganda.
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