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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 30 Oct 2017, 19:55:09

Do you have a source for your opening assertion?

But, yeah, it looks like a rushed, bad decision. The guy said he learned about some of the less savory details of the contract he signed from the media.

But...not the first person not to read all the small print. And doubtless not the last.
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 30 Oct 2017, 21:05:21

Looks like they just rolled this work onto Flour.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1CZ2T0

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which is leading the federal power restoration effort, said it plans to boost the size of a key contract awarded to Fluor Corp by $600 million, to $840 million, according to a government filing.

The Army Corps said it was modifying the contract to ensure “continued execution of the critical repair and restoration of the electric power grid in Puerto Rico.”

It comes a day after Puerto Rican Governor Ricardo Rossello and the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority (PREPA) said they would cancel a $300 million contract with Whitefish Energy Holdings, after an uproar over the deal’s provisions and the tiny Montana company’s lack of experience with projects of such a large size.

Fluor, which declined comment, was already in the process of bringing in people to help restore transmission and distribution of power to the U.S. territory. Hurricane Maria knocked out power to all 3.4 million residents of Puerto Rico, and only about 30 percent of power has been restored nearly six weeks later.

The Army Corps’ action on Monday signals that Fluor is now the primary contractor on Puerto Rico. The Army Corps awarded the original $240 million Fluor contract. The more controversial Whitefish contract was handled directly with PREPA.
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 30 Oct 2017, 21:11:59

Its almost inevitable that this work will have some deep troubles. Its got a lot of pressure to get stuff done fast and a lot of government heads looking at it.

Under best of circumstances someone will be taking advantage of the situation.

From what I see now the first guy was just a front for some big Brazilian outfit. In haste, and under financial pressure, PR did what they thought they could do. Flour probably cried "foul."

Government work, especially under duress, is never going to be efficient. Lets just hope they get it done. At least they are now putting some real money into it, still not enough.

My bet is Flour will just buy the imported equipment. And have their subs hire the workers.

Flour is a big outfit. It will be interesting to see how well they do.
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby GHung » Mon 30 Oct 2017, 21:20:05

Newfie wrote:Looks like they just rolled this work onto Flour.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1CZ2T0

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which is leading the federal power restoration effort, said it plans to boost the size of a key contract awarded to Fluor Corp by $600 million, to $840 million, according to a government filing.

The Army Corps said it was modifying the contract to ensure “continued execution of the critical repair and restoration of the electric power grid in Puerto Rico.”

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which is leading the federal power restoration effort, said it plans to boost the size of a key contract awarded to Fluor Corp by $600 million, to $840 million, according to a government filing.

The Army Corps said it was modifying the contract to ensure “continued execution of the critical repair and restoration of the electric power grid in Puerto Rico.”

It comes a day after Puerto Rican Governor Ricardo Rossello and the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority (PREPA) said they would cancel a $300 million contract with Whitefish Energy Holdings, after an uproar over the deal’s provisions and the tiny Montana company’s lack of experience with projects of such a large size.

It comes a day after Puerto Rican Governor Ricardo Rossello and the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority (PREPA) said they would cancel a $300 million contract with Whitefish Energy Holdings, after an uproar over the deal’s provisions and the tiny Montana company’s lack of experience with projects of such a large size.

Fluor, which declined comment, was already in the process of bringing in people to help restore transmission and distribution of power to the U.S. territory. Hurricane Maria knocked out power to all 3.4 million residents of Puerto Rico, and only about 30 percent of power has been restored nearly six weeks later.

The Army Corps’ action on Monday signals that Fluor is now the primary contractor on Puerto Rico. The Army Corps awarded the original $240 million Fluor contract. The more controversial Whitefish contract was handled directly with PREPA.


From my earlier link:

......how free-market policy wonks and neoliberal economists—and the financial and corporate interests that back them—look for moments of crisis as opportunities to trap countries in a cycle of massive infrastructure projects, rising consumption, and debt. No doubt neoliberal vultures are readying to swoop down on Puerto Rico at this very moment with their brand of “aid.”
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 30 Oct 2017, 21:32:54

I've seen time and again. 9/11, 2008 "Shovel Ready", Sandy, .......

Rinse and repeat.
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby Cog » Mon 30 Oct 2017, 21:40:33

You can make bank if you are contracted to do emergency work. The phrase you want to hear as a consultant is "We don't care what it costs, we just need it done". Its a license to steal make a lot of money.
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 30 Oct 2017, 22:10:55

Newf, it's Fluor not "Flour"...just saying...

When you start talking about 'rolling' and 'flour,' I start thinking about making a pie or some bread...not bad things, mind you, just a little confusing for my tiny brain... :) :) :)
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby GHung » Mon 30 Oct 2017, 22:11:34

Looks like Whitefish, et al, stepped on some big toes:

Source: FBI opens inquiry into Whitefish's Puerto Rico contract
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/ ... index.html

Washington (CNN)The FBI has opened a preliminary inquiry into the $300 million Whitefish Energy Holdings contract secured by the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority, according to a source with knowledge of the inquiry.

The energy firm was contracted to rebuild the damaged electrical grid that was destroyed by hurricanes that struck the island. The Wall Street Journal was first to report the existence of the FBI probe.

If the FBI's preliminary inquiry develops into a full investigation of the contract, it would join several other reviews of the contract already underway.

It wasn't immediately clear what about the deal the FBI would be investigating. But members of Congress have raised concerns over the manner in which the contract for essential work to rebuild the island's decimated grid was awarded to the small Montana company. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has also raised concerns over whether the amount of the contract awarded was reasonable.

The company also has ties to the Trump administration. The company is based in and named after the small hometown of Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, and the CEO is an acquaintance of the secretary. An investment firm that owns a major stake in the company is run by a donor to Trump's presidential campaign. .....
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 30 Oct 2017, 22:30:30

Thanks, G. That seems to me to be the main point. Something is very 'rotten in ... Denmark'...
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 30 Oct 2017, 23:32:46

I wonder how long it will take to get another contractor to take over for Whitefish now. PR estimated a three month delay—- I suspect it may be even longer

Companies were already cautious about doing work in PR because it is bankrupt. Now they also have to worry about political interference and reviews of the contract even after they start working.

I suspect very few companies will want to get involved in the PR grid work and risk getting involved in this kind of a mess, after seeing what has happened to the Whitefish contract

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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 30 Oct 2017, 23:40:41

GHung wrote:
The company ... has ties to the Trump administration. The company is based in and named after the small hometown of Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, and the CEO is an acquaintance of the secretary. An investment firm that owns a major stake in the company is run by a donor to Trump's presidential campaign. .....


Ohmigosh. Cancel the contract. Stop work immediately. Put your tools down NOW!!!

The company is from the same state!!!! Obviously they are unfit to reconnect the grid in PR.

Let’s delay repairs for 3 months until we can find a company based in a different state!!!!

To heck with the people of PR. They can wait for electricity a little longer

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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 31 Oct 2017, 04:56:55

Interesting how some people are falling all over each other to suggest that the current administration can do no wrong, while still constantly saying the previous administration did no right...

Such obvious blind loyalty to party makes it hard to take anything that these people say on such issues seriously, as they are so obviously motivated by something other than an interest in finding and illuminating the truth, sadly.
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby Cog » Tue 31 Oct 2017, 05:15:53

Our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.................
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 31 Oct 2017, 05:28:59

??

No one said anything about a prosecutor or a case...
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby Cog » Tue 31 Oct 2017, 07:05:34

I suppose the reference was a bit obscure for some. It was something Comey said about Hillary breaking numerous laws concerning classified information on her private server and then exonerated her because she had no intent to break the law.

But what you should take comfort in, is that this is now Trump's FBI with his own director. This situation is not being swept under the rug but is being actively investigated. I find that refreshing.
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 31 Oct 2017, 07:22:38

Cog wrote:.....this is now Trump's FBI with his own director. This situation is not being swept under the rug but is being actively investigated. I find that refreshing.


Actually we don’t even know that. As is their policy the FBI has issued no statement that they are investigating the PR contract. CNN said they are, but CNN is known to fabricate and lie about such things as well.

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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 31 Oct 2017, 08:04:28

"CNN is known to fabricate"

Yeah, better for you folks to stick to Fox for fair and unbiased facts... :lol: :lol: :P :P
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Tue 31 Oct 2017, 09:24:24

dohboi wrote:"CNN is known to fabricate"

Yeah, better for you folks to stick to Fox for fair and unbiased facts... :lol: :lol: :P :P
You have to watch enough of both sides to know what they agree on. If both sides agree on something. Say that the sun rises in the East or that Manafort was indicted then that is most certainly a fact. But when they can't agree on their version of fake news and ridicule each others attempts somebody has it wrong. So if they widely disagree on something there is a good chance it is fake or that some time later one side or the other will be proven wrong. Not that the loser will man up and admit they were wrong mind you. :roll:
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 31 Oct 2017, 09:26:05

Head of Puerto Rico Electrical Workers' Union Demands Corruption Probe of Whitefish Energy Contract

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/4242 ... y-contract
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Re: Hurricane Maria

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Tue 31 Oct 2017, 09:54:05

dohboi wrote:Head of Puerto Rico Electrical Workers' Union Demands Corruption Probe of Whitefish Energy Contract

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/4242 ... y-contract


AMY GOODMAN: As we wrap up this interview, I can't help but notice, over your left shoulder, among the pictures on the wall and posters is a poster of Che Guevara. What is his significance in your life? What does he mean to you?

ÁNGEL FIGUEROA JARAMILLO: [translated] Che Guevara, like other leaders in Latin America, shows the solidarity that we Latin American peoples must have at all times. He's an Argentine who went to Cuba, an Argentine who went to Bolivia, an Argentine who went to Latin America. That means that we, the Latin American peoples, need to break down the borders that divide us as countries, as peoples, so as to have a single voice, so as to have greater prosperity, more democracy, more happiness. That's our aspiration as a people. And that is what Che Guevara represented at a given point in time for all of Latin America. And that example of solidarity, of breaking down the barriers that divide us as a nation, is what we aspire to as Puerto Ricans.

Save some time and go right to the end. :roll:
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