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How solar and EV will kill the last of the industry dinosaur

Unread postby Graeme » Sat 24 Aug 2013, 21:11:15

How solar and EVs will kill the last of the industry dinosaurs

Several years ago, Tony Seba, an energy expert from Stanford University, published a book called Solar Trillions, predicting how solar technologies would redefine the world’s energy markets and create an investment opportunity worth tens of trillions of dollars.

Most people looked at him, he says, as if he had three heads. That was possibly because the book was written before the recent plunge in the cost of solar modules had taken effect, and before most incumbent utilities had woken up to the fact that solar – even with minor penetration levels – was turning their business models upside down.

Seba is now working on a new book, with even more dramatic forecasts than his first. His new prediction is that by 2030, solar will make the fossil fuel industry more or less redundant. Even more striking is his forecast that electric vehicles will do the same thing to the oil industry by around the same date.

The predictions are made on the basis that the cost of solar and EV batteries will continue to fall, while the cost to consumers of sourcing energy from fossil fuels through the grid or liquid fuels will continue to rise. Before the decade is out, Seba says, both technologies will pass a tipping point that will eventually sweep the incumbents aside, just as technology and cost developments have done in the computer, internet, media, photographic and telecommunications industries.

“I am incredibly optimistic that by 2030, nuclear, coal, gas, big hydro, and oil will be all but obsolete,” Seba told RenewEconomy in an interview in San Francisco last month. “The world will be mostly powered by solar and wind, and most new vehicles will be electric. The architecture of energy markets is going from centralized to distributed – in liquids and the electric market.”

The working title for the book is “Disrupting energy – how Silicon Valley is making coal, nuclear, oil and gas obsolete.” It is pinned on the theme that decentralised generation and storage will replace the centralised, hub and spoke model that has prevailed for the last century. The impact of decentralised generation is already being felt. The striking part of Seba’s prediction is the speed with which it will happen.


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Re: How solar and EV will kill the last of the industry dino

Unread postby dashster » Thu 29 Aug 2013, 03:17:25

"I am incredibly optimistic that by 2030, nuclear, coal, gas, big hydro, and oil will be all but obsolete"

I would say If he IS incredibly optimistic that sentence should start "I am very confident that". Otherwise, it looks like he may have made an admission that this is all based on "incredible optimism". Which is a less likely outcome than "optimism" or even "substantial optimism".
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Re: How solar and EV will kill the last of the industry dino

Unread postby Graeme » Tue 04 Mar 2014, 20:03:21

Five Reasons Solar’s Win Over Gas in Minnesota is Just the Beginning

Solar advocates were popping corks when a New Year’s Eve ruling by an administrative law judge in Minnesota said that distributed solar arrays were a more cost-effective resource than natural gas to meet Xcel Energy’s peak power needs. The energy media were aflutter for weeks, but many missed the bigger significance.

If solar trumps gas for peaking power in Minnesota, there’s little reason to be building new natural gas peaking capacity anywhere in the country. Ever again.

Let’s look at the five reasons why solar’s triumph over natural gas is likely to stick:

Solar Wins on Cost

Solar Wins on Price Predictability

Solar Wins on Reliability

Solar Wins on Infrastructure

Solar Wins on Economic Benefits


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