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QUOTE O’ THE DAY
"It is not possible to continue infinite consumption and infinite population growth on a finite planet.”
-- Michael Ruppert, WSJ, 4/11/09
Quinny wrote:over $11 here at the moment
Lumpy wrote:Quinny wrote:over $11 here at the moment
Where is "here" ?????
That's a dang steep pump price!!
FUEL PRICES IN EUROPE AND THE USA
Local Currency per litre UK pence per litre
Country Currency Unleaded Diesel Unleaded Diesel
Austria Euro 1.3 1.28 108.95 107.61
Belgium Euro 1.56 1.39 131.06 116.52
Czech Republic Czech Koruna 33.5 32.8 115.09 112.69
Denmark Danish Krone 11.82 10.86 133.29 122.47
Finland Euro 1.5 1.31 125.85 109.88
France Euro 1.6 1.4 134.59 118.03
Germany Euro 1.47 1.27 123.83 107.1
Greece Euro 1.59 1.39 133.92 116.94
Netherlands Euro 1.65 1.36 138.96 114.58
Hungary Forint 360 360 112.18 112.18
Ireland Euro 1.4 1.33 117.78 111.81
Italy Euro 1.47 1.35 123.24 113.74
Luxembourg Euro 1.24 1.15 103.91 96.51
Estonia Euro 1.21 1.25 101.47 104.83
Norway Norwegian Krone 13.58 13.12 147 142.03
Latvia Lats 0.84 0.85 100.36 101.07
Lithuania Litas 4.42 4.14 107.59 100.78
Poland Zloty 4.89 4.69 104.95 100.66
Slovakia Euro 1.38 1.26 116.18 106.01
Slovenia Euro 1.28 1.24 107.52 103.99
Portugal Euro 1.5 1.32 126.18 110.8
Spain Euro 1.28 1.25 107.61 105.08
Sweden Swedish Krona 13.48 13.64 129.48 131.02
Switzerland Swiss Francs 1.71 1.84 110.98 119.42
USA US Dollar 0.8296 0.93 51.16 57.58
Malta Euro 1.31 1.21 110.13 101.72
Bulgaria Leva 2.36 2.47 101.42 106.14
vision-master wrote:$3.55 here in Mn with rumors of it going to $4 by the end of the Month. I have a Nephew that bought a country home and drives 80 miles one way to work. I tried warning them, but you know, there is no such thing as peak oil. BAU.....
Lumpy wrote:vision-master wrote:$3.55 here in Mn with rumors of it going to $4 by the end of the Month. I have a Nephew that bought a country home and drives 80 miles one way to work. I tried warning them, but you know, there is no such thing as peak oil. BAU.....
Man, I hear you. Trying to talk sense into some people -- who keep going for the BAU.
Tried to talk grown kids (two sons - both professional commercial/residential painters --- plus at home wife of one of them, and their two sons 4 & 2) into moving to near the farm place here in rural Idaho about 3 yrs ago -- getting whatever work they could (didn't have to be "fulfilling" -- just had to make $$), and working on the farm place every moment they could to build it up faster ... so that it could support everyone "in time."
They showed up but didn't "get it" about the need to "make hay while the sun shines" in terms of making bucks while the economy would pay them ... while putting sweat equity into what would sustain them long-term. They just wanted to play farmer -- without the SLIGHTEST clue as to what needed to happen on a farm ... and without ANY thought for the fact that it costs MONEY to support more people. (i.e. -- NEED TO WORK -- wherever, doing whatever, as long as it's legal, in order to support selves until time came that the farm became primary source of support - by necessity).
So they left again.
Now they have all been increasingly living in a world of hurt. I.E. Work is scarce.
The one who is single is living with his 89 year old grandmother, trying (for past 18 months) to establish a business that requires him to drive a lot ... while also working side jobs, painting. (Those are getting scarcer.) He also has a job as a driver delivering medical equipment (hospital beds, etc) for Hospice patients and the like. He was recently told that no one there will be getting raises (they don't make squat to start with), because "The cost of fuel is going up too much too fast."
The one with the wife and two kids (now 7 & 5) recently gave up trying to establish a business along the sames lines as his younger brother (see above - lots of driving required), and has been desperately taking little painting jobs, etc. Has to leave family for weeks at a time to DRIVE 400 miles for painting jobs that come up. Often ends up sleeping in car for 4-5 nights out of 7 ... because it costs him so much to drive to the jobs that he can't afford lodging.
SO -- BAU thinking. Yeah, I'm seeing the pain it's causing in my own family for my own kids and grandkids. And so for me, too.
If a 2X4 up the side of their heads would have convinced them 3 yrs ago that BAU was going away, I would have used it!!!
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