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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby TheAntiDoomer » Tue 17 Jul 2012, 08:47:29

Industrial Production increased 0.4% in June, Capacity Utilization increased

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Industrial production increased 0.4 percent in June after having declined 0.2 percent in May. In the manufacturing sector, output advanced 0.7 percent in June and reversed a decrease of 0.7 percent in May. In the second quarter of 2012, manufacturing output rose at an annual rate of 1.4 percent, a marked deceleration from its strong gain of 9.8 percent in the first quarter. The largest contribution to the increase in the second quarter came from motor vehicles and parts, which climbed 18.2 percent; excluding motor vehicles and parts, manufacturing output edged up 0.1 percent. Outside of manufacturing, the output of mines advanced 0.7 percent in June, while the output of utilities decreased 1.9 percent. For the quarter, however, the output of mines fell at an annual rate of 1.2 percent, while the output of utilities rose 14.9 percent. At 97.4 percent of its 2007 average, total industrial production in June was 4.7 percent above its year-earlier level. Capacity utilization for total industry moved up 0.2 percentage point in June to 78.9 percent, a rate 1.4 percentage points below its long-run (1972--2011) average.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

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U.S. Industrial Production Increases In Sign Of Resilience
Industrial production in the U.S. increased in June, led by gains among automobile and machinery makers that signal manufacturing is boosting economic growth.

Output at factories, mines and utilities rose 0.4 percent last month after a revised 0.2 percent drop in May that was larger than previously reported
, Federal Reserve data showed today in Washington. Economists forecast a 0.3 percent gain, according to the Bloomberg News survey median. Manufacturing, which makes up about 75 percent of total production, rose 0.7 percent last month, reversing the prior month’s decline.

The pickup in manufacturing may temper concerns of a bigger slowdown in the industry that has spearheaded the three-year-old expansion. At the same time, factories face the challenges of a weakening global economy and an American consumer hobbled by 8.2 percent unemployment and stagnant income growth.

“Manufacturing looked decent in June,” said Harm Bandholz, chief U.S. economist at UniCredit Group in New York, said before the report. “The risk is from the uncertainty over the global economic outlook and, more recently, the fiscal situation in the U.S., which means companies will meet demand more and more by drawing down inventories.”

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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Tue 17 Jul 2012, 08:57:50

Treasury Yields Near All-Time Low Amid Concerns of US Slowdown
U.S. Treasury yields fell to the brink of new all-time lows [the 5-year is in fact at an all-time low today, but the WSJ reporter seems to only track the 10yr] as concerns about a U.S. economic slowdown spurred demand for financial safety, extending the market's rally this month.

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The benchmark 10-year note yielded as little as 1.440% midday, a hair away from its 1.437% record low set on June 1 after a weak employment report. The yield on five-year notes sank as low as 0.577%, a new record for that maturity. Bond yields fall when prices rise.

A retail industry report early Monday showed sales falling for the third consecutive month in June, stoking fears about a snag in the U.S. recovery. Consumer spending, a crux of the U.S. economy, remains constrained by high unemployment and households' efforts to work off debt.

"Clearly things are slowing down, more so than most had expected," said Larry Milstein, head of government and agency trading at R.W. Pressprich & Co. "For a while, everyone was focused just on Europe. Now we're seeing the slowdown here and in China—major drivers of global growth."
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Tue 17 Jul 2012, 09:07:40

Pimco's Gross Says U.S. Is Nearing Recession
(July 17, 2012) Bill Gross, who runs the world’s largest mutual fund at Pacific Investment Management Co., said the U.S. is approaching a recession as BlackRock expects the Federal Reserve to take more steps to support growth.

Five-year Treasury yields slid to a record 0.577 percent yesterday after an unexpected drop in U.S. retail sales rekindled speculation Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke will use testimony today to hint at further monetary easing. That followed data earlier this month showing American employers added fewer-than-estimated workers to payrolls. Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank AG cut forecasts for U.S. growth.

The U.S. is “approaching recession when measured by employment, retail sales, investment, and corporate profits,”
Gross, who manages the $263 billion Pimco’s Total Return Fund, wrote on Twitter yesterday.

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Retail sales fell 0.5 percent in June, figures from the Commerce Department showed yesterday, exceeding the most pessimistic forecast in a Bloomberg News survey. U.S. employment increased 80,000 last month, according to a Labor Department report, trailing the 100,000 increase projected by economists.

“Pretty much everything is way weaker,” Ewen Cameron Watt, chief investment strategist at the BlackRock Investment Institute, told reporters today in a teleconference from London. “There will be some more action from the Federal Reserve, but not probably dramatic action in a sense of massive stimulus.”

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... Goldman Sachs analysts led by Jan Hatzius cut their estimate for second-quarter economic growth to 1.1 percent from 1.3 percent, while Deutsche Bank chief U.S economist, Joseph LaVorgna, reduced his forecast to 1 percent from 1.4 percent.

“The sharp downward momentum in the economy”
increases the probability of further Fed easing either in the form of another round of quantitative easing or other nonconventional measures, LaVorgna wrote in a note yesterday. “We need a couple of more weak employment reports, with figures near zero and with the unemployment rate increasing, for the Fed to undertake easing action.”
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Tue 17 Jul 2012, 09:19:31

Forbes: Retail Sales In Worst Slump Since 2008 Recession
Retailers saw fewer customers for the third consecutive month in June, a signal that weak job growth is forcing U.S. consumers to pare back purchases.

Sales fell be 0.5% to $401.5 billion, from the unrevised $403.4 billion in May, new Commerce Department data shows. Economists hoped that retail sales would rebound by 0.2%.

The three-month slump in retail sales mirrors the deceleration in job growth. The labor market went from an average of 226,000 jobs a month in the first quarter to only 75,000 in the second quarter, and as that pace slowed, Americans grew concerned about the health of the U.S. recovery. Worryingly, retail sales have not fallen into a three-month slump since late 2008.

“Retail sales have hit a brick wall, plain and simple,” says IHS economist Jim Dorsey. “The American consumer is not in a healthy state…This is a bad report. There is nothing very promising in the details.”


...It is quite unusual for retail sales to fall in three consecutive months, says FTN Financial economist Chris Low. The last time that happened, in the fourth quarter of 2008, was “not just a recessionary quarter but a particularly nasty recessionary quarter,” he says—a time when GDP declined by 6.2%, and the S&P 500 fell below 880, after starting at 1,213.

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Economists pay close attention to retail figures. The data is often a useful figure when assessing consumer confidence, a key part to any recovery in the United States, where consumer spending drives 70% of all economic activity.

Other retail sectors experiencing large declines in June included building suppliers and sporting goods, which both dropped by 1.6%.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Tue 17 Jul 2012, 09:30:08

"Evidence is increasingly clear that the U.S. economy is slowing"
For the third consecutive month, retail sales fell as demand waned for everything from cars and electronics to building material, another telling sign that the U.S. economy may be slipping back into a recession. ... The dismal commerce numbers add to the recent wave of weak economic data.

On Monday, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) cut its forecast for global economic growth and urged European policy makers to take more aggressive measures to curtail their crisis, while cautioning that China's economy is at risk for taking a hard fall.

Meanwhile, Reuters reported a poll released on Monday that revealed American companies have tempered any plans to hire workers, while a growing number of firms believe the mess in Europe is hurting sales. The poll showed nearly half (47%) of companies polled believe their sales have suffered thanks to the Eurozone debt crisis.

While economists continue to voice their concerns that the looming fiscal cliff is bound to throw America into a recession, the Economic Cycle Research Institute in America says we are already in one.

The ECRI points out that the U.S. economy experienced outright contraction in the second quarter amid slumping job growth, weak retail sales, dismal broader trade sales and a moribund housing market.

"I think we're in recession already," Lakshman Achuthan, co-founder of the ECRI told Bloomberg TV. "It's very rare that you know you're going into recession...It often takes some big hit on the top of the head," he continued, adding that recessions don't always have to be near Armageddon like collapses such as the one that reared its ugly head in the U.S. in late 2008. But the signs are clear and hard to miss.

Achuthan's claim that we are already in a recession deviates from the median forecasts of economists surveyed by Bloomberg which expects an annual growth rate of 2.2% this quarter and the next.

Still according to Blomberg , Achuthan is on to something.
As Bloomberg points out, factory output is declining, industrial production has dipped, manufacturing activity is dropping and consumer spending has stalled.

What's more, even though GDP did grow in the first quarter, it is not a compelling indicator of the direction the economy is headed. For example, GDP grew in the last quarter of 2007, even as the worst recession since World War I began in December of that quarter.

"Evidence is increasingly clear that the U.S. economy is slowing" Jim Baird, an investment strategist at Plante Moran Financial Advisors in Kalamazoo, Michigan, told Reuters.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby OilFinder2 » Tue 17 Jul 2012, 09:31:29

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Top home builder sentiment rise in nearly decade
Home-builder sentiment in July surged the most in close to a decade to bring the level to the highest point since the recession.

Builder confidence for newly built, single-family homes climbed 6 points to 35, the highest level since March 2007,
according to the National Association of Home Builders/Wells Fargo housing market index released Tuesday.

Economists polled by MarketWatch had forecast a reading of 30. The index is designed so that a reading of 50 is considered good, which hasn’t been the case since April 2006.

That said, there’s rising confidence by builders. “This is greater evidence that the housing market has turned the corner as more buyers perceive the benefits of purchasing a newly built home while interest rates and prices are so favorable,” said Barry Rutenberg, chairman of the National Association of Home Builders, in a statement.

Each of the four regions posted gains, including a strong 12-point surge in the West.

The component gauging current sales conditions rose 6 points to 37 and the component measuring traffic of prospective buyers rose 6 points to 29. The component gauging sales expectations for the next six months gained 11 points to 44.


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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Tue 17 Jul 2012, 10:06:40

US economy has slowed significantly, says Ben Bernanke
Ben Bernanke, the Federal Reserve chairman, said the economy had slowed significantly in recent months due to the continuing eurozone debt crisis and uncertainty surrounding US fiscal policy. Mr Bernanke forecast slower growth for this year and next.

Shares on Wall Street turned negative when he said the central bank stood ready to offer additional monetary support for the world's biggest economy but provided few details.

In a blow to Barack Obama and others hopeful for better economic news ahead of November's presidential elections, he said US economic data had been "disappointing".

"Given that growth is projected to be not much above the rate needed to absorb new entrants into the labor force, the reduction in the unemployment rate seems likely to be frustratingly slow," he said in his semi-annual testimony.

Unemployment is still stuck above 8pc, nearly four years after the worst of the financial crisis.

In terms of risk to the US recovery, Mr Bernanke pointed to the double barrels of the eurozone crisis and US debt.

"The possibility that the situation in Europe will worsen further remains a significant risk to the outlook," he said, adding that European nations had both the incentive and the means to tackle the crisis.

He again urged Congress to put in place a plan that would reduce US debt while keeping short-term stimulus in place.

Growth rose a modest 2pc in the first quarter of this year, but Mr Bernanke said "available indicators point to a still-smaller gain in the second quarter".

He said members of the Fed's top policy-setting panel had predicted that growth will reach 1.9pc to 2.4pc this year.

"These forecasts are lower than those we made in January, reflecting the generally disappointing tone of recent incoming data."

He said households remained concerned about their prospects for jobs and income and their "overall level of confidence remains relatively low".
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Tue 17 Jul 2012, 10:24:37


The eurozone endgame will begin in Greece

Greece won't be able to make its austerity policies stick and, as the global depression worsens, will have to leave the eurozone

The June summit of the eurozone was initially trumpeted as a decisive step towards resolving the crisis. Italy and Spain won agreement to allow European institutions to recapitalise banks and purchase sovereign debt directly.

But once financial markets had a closer look, it became clear that little of substance had been achieved, and the borrowing costs of Italy and Spain again approached forbidding heights. Meanwhile the Spanish government has imposed fresh austerity, breaking its promises to the electorate. And unemployment in the eurozone continues to rise, exceeding 11% on average.

It is now a fair guess that the European Monetary Union (or the eurozone) has crossed the Rubicon and is heading towards breakup or collapse. In the periphery of Greece, Portugal, Ireland and Spain, there is despair at the ever-deepening recession. In France and Italy there is burgeoning opposition to long-term austerity. In Germany there is frustration at feckless southerners.

Disintegration is likely to take a turn for the worse in 2013, as a global slump is in the offing. The large economies of Europe, including the UK, are entering recession largely due to austerity policies. The US economy is veering towards negative territory, as Barack Obama's expansionary policies were never vigorous enough. China is facing a hard landing that will force a re-examination of its growth strategy. The international financial system, meanwhile, remains weak and unreformed.


After three years of festering, truly drastic action is now required. Peripheral countries must abandon austerity as part of a Europe-wide programme to raise productivity, financial institutions must be taken into public ownership, and debt written off. But it is unthinkable that Europe's current political leaders would embark on such changes. Hidebound by neoliberal economics, they will continue with austerity, privatisation and liberalisation. The financial markets have sensed it and are preparing for disaster.

The disaster is likely to start in Greece. The country is in the midst of an unprecedented depression, made largely in Brussels. In 2012 output is likely to contract by 7% to 9%, on top of about 14% in 2008-11. Not surprisingly, the bailout programme is again missing its targets as recession has reduced tax revenues.

Yet the EU is insisting that the country should stick with the failed programme by imposing huge cuts in public expenditure in 2012-14. The aim is to achieve a primary surplus at the earliest date. If the cuts do take place and a global slump does indeed materialise, the Greek economy will contract ruthlessly in 2013, even by 10%. It would be an economic and social catastrophe, especially as unemployment is already at 23%, including 52% for the youth.

The present Greek government, formed out of the establishment parties of New Democracy and Pasok with the addition of the ardent Europeanist Dimar, is incapable of dealing with the crisis. They won the June election by playing on middle-class fears about returning to the drachma and losing savings.

They also cynically promised to renegotiate bailout terms knowing full well that renegotiation was impossible as long as the framework of the bailout was accepted. In practice, they are about to impose the spending cuts demanded by the EU, while liberalising closed professions and selling public assets in the ludicrous hope of boosting growth.

The government is unlikely to survive for long. As depression worsens in the next six months to a year, Greece will again confront the impossibility of sticking with bailout policies.

This time the decision is likely to be final, with profound implications for the ruling elite that took the country into the EMU on a wing and a prayer. The elite is now watching in horror as its strategy is falling apart, and seems incapable of devising an alternative path.

But Greece is unlikely to attempt suicide: at some point it will default on its debts and exit the EMU.
There will then be a genuinely new government, perhaps formed by the left, which will navigate the chaos and guide the rebuilding of economy and society. Once Greece has made its move, the unravelling of the EMU will probably start in full earnest.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby OilFinder2 » Tue 17 Jul 2012, 11:26:30

Trivia question for the doomers: Guess which direction single-family starts are headed? :lol:

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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

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OilFinder2 wrote:Trivia question for the doomers: Guess which direction single-family starts are headed? :lol:

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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 07:48:53

This is currently on Reuters' front page:

Roubini sticks to 2013 "perfect storm" prediction
(Reuters) - Economist Nouriel Roubini is standing by his prediction for a global "perfect storm" next year as economies the world over slow down or shudder to a complete halt, geopolitical risk grows and the euro zone's debt crisis accelerates.

Roubini, the New York University professor dubbed "Dr Doom" for predicting the 2008 financial crisis, highlighted five factors that could derail the global economy.

Those factors are a worsening of the debt crisis in Europe; tax increases and spending cuts in United Sates that may push the world's biggest economy into recession; a hard landing for China's economy; further slowing in emerging markets; and a military confrontation with Iran.

"Next year is the time when the can becomes too big to kick it down (the road)...then we have a global perfect storm,"
Roubini said in a television interview with Reuters.

Roubini's gloomy 2013 outlook isn't new, but it's getting more purchase as slowing economies and Europe's debt crisis drive turbulence in financial markets.

After what he expects will be a flat year for U.S. stocks in 2012, Roubini said the equity market could face a sharp correction next year, with little the Federal Reserve can do to stop it.

"There might be a weak rally because people are being cheered by more quantitative easing by (Chairman Ben) Bernanke and the Fed, but if the economy is weakening, that is going to put downward pressure on earnings growth," said Roubini.

Roubini said the Federal Reserve may be pushed toward unconventional policy options as the simulative effect of successive waves of quantitative easing - effectively printing money to buy government bonds - diminishes over time.

Unconventional policy could include "targeting the 10-year Treasury at 1 percent, doing credit easing rather than quantitative easing, targeting nominal GDP, price-level targeting and lots of stuff that is more esoteric," said Roubini. "Eventually if everything goes wrong, they can even buy equities."


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Comment: In essence, what we're looking at here is the prospect of sustained, omnipresent economic contraction. Not a recession. Not a depression.

We're looking at a complex society (that is the global economy) being forced to unwind from a period - decades - when the industrialised world inflated the largest credit/debt bubble in human history.

As Richard Heinberg says," due to energy limits, overwhelming debt burdens and accumulating environmental impacts, the world has reached a point where continued economic growth may be unachievable. Instead of increasing its complexity, society will - for the foreseeable future, and probably in fits and starts - be shedding complexity ...".

The most worrying thing about our predicament is the stubborn refusal of politicians and orthodox economists to open their eyes to the realities of all this. ...


Comment: Printing money to prop up the the financial system's biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world. Spending money on ourselves by creating IOUs for our children and grand children to repay. Huge percentages of Western populations living champayne lifestyles on lemonade incomes. Criminal politicians and bankers betraying the societies they work within, aided and abetted by lickspittle journos. It doesn't take an economist to see it is going to end in tears. We are facing the equivilent of the 1930s on steroids: Good, the sooner our whole corrupt greedy money system and the political system it owns crashes, the better. Maybe then the criminals in politics and banking will be jailed not rewarded with money and decent, honest, grown up men and women can take over the important jobs in our societies.


Comment: 2013 will be a key year where several forces interact and coalesce to topple the house-of-cards, namely: (1) short-term bandaids like Ponzi frauds & money printing will no longer be effective; (2) the high cost of energy will cause economies to contract; (3) this contraction will lead to severe unemployment and cause asset bubbles (like real estate and stock markets) to collapse; (4) with a majority of sovereigns broke or bankrupt, and with real estate prices tumbling, banks will suffer enormous losses for which no one will be able to save them; and (5) this will lead to massive contagions that will spread throughout the entire financial system ... and, for the first time, sovereigns will be helpless to prevent it.

I believe that Roubini's conclusion is correct. He has noted that in 2008, the global economy hit a debt wall, such that several decades of exponentially growing debt reached the mathematical limit. As a result, banks and companies collapsed, requiring sovereigns to take on massive debts for the bailouts.

2009-2012 were marked by sovereign bankruptcies, most notably the PIIGS. But when a sovereign goes bust, other sovereigns (Germany, Finland) must pick up the tab. Now that the vast majority of sovereigns are bankrupt, Ponzi schemes and money printing are the only remaining options. But these don't work for long, if at all, and they eventually backfire.

Chris Martenson (of the "Crash Course") also predicts that 2013 will be the year where the now-fragile house-of-cards begins to implode. Whether it's 2013 or 2014 or 2015, the point is that WE ARE AT THE VERY EDGE of the current Ponzi structure upon which our great leaders have built modern society.

So the next time you hear Merkel promising to bailout the PIIGS, or Bernanke promising to unleash QE3, keep in mind this overall framework, and you'll easily conclude that Merkel & Co. are helpless to prevent what is about to happen.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 08:01:43

There is now a clear dichotomy in the Eurozone with respect to bond yields: the "viable" AAA countries (Germany, Finland, Netherlands, Denmark, Switzerland, etc.) have negative yields; whilst the "non-viable" countries suffer from heightened yields.

Finland Enters The NIRP Club As Germany Sells 2 Year Subzero Debt For The First Time

The NIRP club, or those countries whose 2 Year (or longer) bonds trade inside negative territory as presented yesterday, is happy to welcome Finland among its ranks, following the country's 2 Year bond briefly touching on -.008% minutes ago (since "recovering" to 0.0000% briefly). Other proud member countries include Holland, Germany (which earlier issued 2 Year debt at sub zero rates for the first time ever), Denmark, and Switzerland, or Europe's AAA-list. On the other end, the peripherals continue to trade on an ever more unsustainable basis. Europe has now become one big pair trade: everyone is long the viable countries and short the... less than viable ones.

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PATRICK JACQ, RATE STRATEGIST, BNP PARIBAS, PARIS

"Some institutions must hold safety assets because whatever the price, whatever the yield, they need it on their balance sheet and there are fewer safe havens globally. There's a large amount of liquidity in the global system and this is dragging yields down into negative territory.

"We are also in an environment where the market is expecting that after the ECB rate cuts it could deliver further and could even put the rate on the deposit facility into negative territory."

NICK STAMENKOVIC, BOND STRATEGIST, RIA CAPITAL MARKETS, EDINBURGH

"It is no surprise that we have negative yields at a two-year auction in Germany. We've seen yields not just in Germany but in other European countries as well move to negative territory following the ECB's decision to cut the deposit rate.

"Against that backdrop and with the economic picture looking so poor at the moment, yields could remain negative at the short end for some time to come and could even go further into negative territory in the near term."

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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

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Housing Starts In U.S. Rose In June To Highest Since 2008
Beginning construction of U.S. homes rose more than forecast in June to the fastest rate in almost four years, indicating a brighter outlook for the residential real estate market.

Housing starts rose 6.9 percent last month to a 760,000 annual pace after a revised 711,000 rate in May that was faster than initially estimated, the Commerce Department reported today in Washington. The median forecast of 79 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News called for a 745,000 rate. Building permits fell, reflecting a drop in applications for apartment construction.

Record-low mortgage rates and cheaper properties are attracting buyers, encouraging builders faced with lean inventories to boost construction. At the same time, limited employment opportunities and competition from distressed properties are challenges for the industry.

“Demand has bottomed out and we expect continued improvement,” said Yelena Shulyatyeva, a U.S. economist at BNP Paribas in New York, who projected a 750,000 pace of housing starts for June. “We’re in a recovery, a very slow one.”

The June pace of home starts was the fastest since October 2008, and estimates in the Bloomberg survey for June housing starts ranged from 710,000 to 800,000. Ground-breaking on new homes in May was revised from a previously reported 708,000 annual pace.

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IMF report says euro crisis a Here Comes The Double Dip Pt.

Unread postby dolanbaker » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 09:44:03

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0718/imf-re ... iness.html
In a hard-hitting report on the Euro area, the IMF has called on governments to show a shared and unequivocal commitment to deeper integration in the Euro area.

This would include the creation of a banking union to deal with problem banks at a European level, structural reforms to raise growth, and more fiscal integration, including a common debt and stronger governance.

It says "the deepening of the crisis suggests that its root causes remain unaddressed. Economic and Monetary union lacks the basic tools that can break the adverse feedback loops between sovereigns, banks and the real economy".

It also says the Euro area lacks ambitious policies to boost economic growth.

In making the case for a banking union, the IMF says the Euro area is in an uncomfortable and unsustainable halfway point.

"While it is sufficiently integrated to allow escalating problems in one country to spill over into others, it lacks the economic flexibility or policy tools to deal with these spillovers".

It says a deposit guarantee scheme, a strong regime for resolving failing banks, and a single bank supervisor for the whole Euro area are the essential parts of a banking union.

It says the costs of resolving failing banks should be paid by a levy on the banking industry, with the use of ESM funds in the short term.

The IMF also says Euro area states need to pool sovereignty further to create a fiscal union.

This would have the financial resources to share risk and give financial support to states that were hit by economic shocks.

But this would require countries giving up some powers over budget policy, and would probably mean some form of tax authority over the whole region by a centralised authority, which would also have supervisory power over member states to make sure they stick to agreed budget policies.



In other words, share the burden or fail.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 10:32:11

The euro graph of doom
Graphics can often tell a story better than words. For those who think the euro already doomed, the following graphic, drawn from the International Monetary Fund's latest Global Financial Stability Report, tells it all.

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What it shows is the now extreme flight of foreign capital from Spain and Italy. As you can see, the graph only goes up to the end of January, but we know that the phenomenon has got, much, much worse since then. This Credit Suisse graphic (below) tells much the same story. Anyone who can has been getting their money out. Likewise, any foreign company doing business in Spain and Italy removes the money as soon as they get paid, driven both by concern over the safety of the domestic banking system and the possibility that these countries might end up leaving the euro. This has been pretty much one way traffic.

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Since no money system could tolerate such a sustained attack for long, the outflows are compensated for by "target 2" inflows from the European Central Bank, which in turn borrows the money from the eurozone's creditor central banks, in particular the Bundesbank.

The process thereby becomes something of a money go round. The foreign investor withdraws his money from the Spanish or Italian bank and deposits it with an apparently "safer" German bank, which in turn lends the money to the Bundesbank, from where it finds its way back through the ECB via the target 2 system to the original Spanish or Italian bank.

It sounds like Alice in Wonderland, but in fact is no different from what happens in the money system within national borders. If there is a sudden outflow of capital from, say, Lancashire, the Bank of England will call on the consequent surplus accumulating elsewhere to plug the gap so as to ensure that the Lancashire banking system can continue to fund itself.

What makes it different in the eurozone is that the same thing is happening between countries. Within countries, there is a general sense of in it together, backed by a common fiscal framework, that makes it tolerable. But when it is between countries unsupported by fiscal transfers, it obviously becomes more problematic.
In Germany and other creditor nations, there is growing concern over the consequent build up of contingent liabilities. Deposits made through German banks are in essence funding Spanish and Italian assets on an ever expanding scale. If these countries left the euro, then Germany would face massive, unfunded liabilities. What's building up is as much a disaster for Germany as everyone else.

The flight to safety has prompted a collapse in yields on government bonds in Germany, the US, Switzerland, Sweden, and to some extent the UK too. Naturally, this has also driven up their currencies, except in the case of Germany, where because of the single currency, no such thing can happen.

With the natural remedy of exchange rate adjustment ruled out, Germany thus becomes a deflationary doomsday machine for the rest of Europe, a leviathan which sucks the life blood out of everyone else. It hardly needs me to say it's completely unsustainable. The graphs tell their own story.
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Re: IMF report says euro crisis a Here Comes The Double Dip

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 11:29:11

dolanbaker wrote:In other words, share the burden or fail.


The Euro is really heading for a decisive moment: either the Eurozone members integrate (such that the triple-A rated nations would guaranty the debts of the Club Med nations), or Germany vacates the Eurozone.

AEP: Merkel needs to put up or break up

IMF: eurozone in critical danger, ECB should launch QE

According to the IMF: "The euro area crisis has reached a new and critical stage. Despite major policy actions, financial markets in parts of the region remain under acute stress, raising questions about the viability of the monetary union itself."

... A priority for the eurozone was to create a banking union, which would entail a common eurozone bank supervisor, as well as a common deposit guarantee scheme and bank resolution fund.

... Meanwhile, Moody's has warned that European companies that have held up well against the eurozone debt crisis are now increasingly exposed and their credit ratings could be cut in coming months. "The credit quality of non-financial companies has been relatively resilient so far during the sovereign financial crisis in Europe but the risk of credit deterioration is now increasing; Revenues and cash flow are declining severely for some companies in markets with falling domestic demand, such as Greece and Portugal and more recently Spain, with increasing risks for Italy," Moody's said. It warned that if the situation worsened, it would expect the ratings of most investment-grade companies in the EU peripheral states to decline, with some moving into speculative grade.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

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Dire Signs for Spanish Economy as Interest Rates Reach 6.9%
Spain's housing and banking sectors continue to deteriorate, grim new government data showed Wednesday, providing the latest indication that the country's economy remains caught in a protracted recession.

House prices declined at the fastest pace since the start of the crisis in the second quarter, the public ministry said, while bank deposits saw a record decline in May from a year earlier, and bad loans increased for a 14th month in a row, the Bank of Spain reported.

The withering economy is increasing pressure on Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy's government to shore up confidence in the country's public finances and establish a firm footing for a much needed recovery in hiring and wage growth. But Mr. Rajoy acknowledged Wednesday in a speech to parliament that the government's prescription of spending cuts and higher taxes probably won't produce benefits in the short term.

"This government can't decide between a good and a bad choice," Mr. Rajoy said. "This government has to choose between the bad and the even worse."

Spain plans to sign an agreement with the European Union to secure €100 billion ($122.95 billion) of bailout funds for its struggling banks Friday, and any lender that accesses the emergency capital will have to impose losses on shareholders.

Total private-sector deposits held in the country's banks shrank 5.75% from a year earlier in May to €1.327 trillion. Some €7.4 billion were withdrawn compared with April, the data showed. The pool of bad loans jumped to €155.84 billion, or 8.95% of total loans, up from 8.72% in April.

"The numbers confirm that there is an actual outflow of deposits from Spain right now,"
said Carlos Peixoto, a bank analyst with BPI Banco in Portugal.

The drop in deposits in May coincided with the Spanish government's emergency takeover of one of the country's largest lenders, Bankia SA. The Rajoy administration agreed to pump €19 billion into the troubled bank, and since then, worries about the rising cost of cleaning up the local banking industry pushed the country's financing costs higher.

The yield on Spain's 10-year bond rose to 6.9% Wednesday, approaching the 7% threshold that analysts say is too high for the government to continue to finance its deficit.

Mr. Peixoto said the shrinking loan volumes and new rise in bad debts were roughly as bad as expected. Credit volume in Spain—which during the boom grew at annual rates of almost 30%—has been falling every month since February 2011, and in May was down 3.82% on the year.

Spain's bank problems are tightly intertwined with the decline in its real-estate sector, with lenders struggling to digest billions in bad real-estate loans. The country's house price index dropped 8.3% from a year earlier in the second quarter, indicating that the free-falling real-estate market has yet to find a floor.

Spain is undergoing a painful deleveraging process, in which a decline in economic output and employment has forced households and businesses to borrow less, and in some cases walk away from loans they can't repay. That is curbing investment, deepening the country's slump.

Following the increase in mortgage defaults, "other forms of bank lending could come under increasing pressure, with deeper recessionary conditions delivering steep employment losses," said Raj Badiani, an analyst at IHS Global Insight.

The vicious cycle of rising borrowing costs and continued economic recession prompted the IMF earlier this week to cut its growth forecast for the country into next year. The fund said the economy will likely contract 1.5% in 2012 and shrink another 0.6% in 2013.

A fresh round of €65 billion of austerity measures announced last week by Mr. Rajoy may weigh on the economy further in the short term. In response to criticism from opposition lawmakers Wednesday, Mr. Rajoy's cabinet members held firm, arguing that reducing the deficit and implementing structural reforms are the only option to ensure the country remains solvent and returns to growth in the long run.

"If we don't raise tax collections, salary payments for the public sector are at risk," Budget Minister Cristobal Montoro said.
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 12:05:20

OilFinder2 wrote:Housing Starts In U.S. Rose In June To Highest Since 2008


It's a good thing we have increasing housing starts, when new data shows that upcoming foreclosures and shadow inventory are growing at an alarming rate:

From Bloomberg:

The shadow inventory of homes – those in foreclosure plus those 90 days late on mortgage payments – is on the rise again, a further indication that the supply side has not yet healed. Accoring to RealtyTrac, foreclosure starts jumped 6 percent on a year ago basis in the second quarter, the first year-over-year increase since 2009. There are roughly 4.16 million homes that could begin to flow to market.

Once one takes the number of homeowners 30- to 90-days late on their mortgage payments and includes the likely default of those that have negative equity on their homes, there is a strong possibility more than 6.5 million additional foreclosures will enter the pipeline. The addition of homes that banks may be holding back suggests a much larger number. Laurie Goodman of Amherst Securities Group has testified before Congress that it could be as high as between 8 and 10 million.


So ... banks are holding back on up to 10 million foreclosures whilst new homes are being built, underwritten by the govt owned Fannie and Freddie, no doubt. What a disaster!
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Re: Here Comes The Double Dip Pt. 4

Unread postby TheAntiDoomer » Wed 18 Jul 2012, 12:28:00

Fed's Bernanke: 'We Don't See a Double-Dip Recession'

http://m.cnbc.com/id/48224583
"At this point we don't see a double dip recession. We see continued moderate growth. But we are very committed to ensuring, or at least doing all we can to ensure, that we continue to make progress on the employment side. And we have stated that we are "At this point we don't see a double dip recession. We see continued moderate growth. But we are very committed to ensuring, or at least doing all we can to ensure, that we continue to make progress on the employment side. And we have stated that we are prepared to take action as needed to try to make sure that we see continued progress on employment." to take action as needed to try to make sure that we see continued progress on employment."


No double dip?!! Sorry dp. Start a new thread.
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