Ludi wrote:How do you intend to implement this coercion? How do you intend to pass legislation in your own country? How do you intend to pass legislation in other countries?
Or is this merely more academic discussion?
btu2012 wrote:I know that it seems impossible given the current political environment, but the political environment will change. The same is true of the political leaders, they will change once the ineptitude of the "business as usual types" becomes apparent.
Btu
Jack wrote:Ending business as usual comes in many flavors. Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and Mao Tse Tung all ended business as usual. Their backers all believed the solutions to be realistic, and that the methods would promote national survival.
HEADER_RACK wrote: I say have as many kids as you can sustain yourself. If you can't sustain any then don't have any. If you have more than what you can support, oh well you will have to pay the piper. Don't make someone else pay to get you out of the fix you put yourself in and don't cry that it's not fair bullsh#t . Life isn't fair
btu2012 wrote:I believe that such legislation can be passed by the usual legislative bodies, namely parliaments in Europe and Congress in the US, as emergency measures for dealing with the crisis once the crisis starts to hit.
btu2012 wrote:So you would propose eliminating the subsidies for having children, if I understand correctly.
Ludi wrote:btu2012 wrote:I believe that such legislation can be passed by the usual legislative bodies, namely parliaments in Europe and Congress in the US, as emergency measures for dealing with the crisis once the crisis starts to hit.
So your intention is to wait until the crisis to act?
BTW, when I use the word "you" I mean you, btu2012, not "somebody." I'm asking YOU, btu2012, what YOU are intending to do. Or are you just shooting the breeze here?
Ludi wrote:
What am I doing? Helping to educate people about actions they can take for themselves. Taking action myself.
I guess, I'm just very frustrated by the endless talking about these problems, especially since they have been studied and discussed for decades. Do you think there will be some new information revealed in this thread? If this thread were about how to motivate people to change, I mean real actions we here on the board could take to help solve problems, I would like it more.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:btu2012 wrote:So you would propose eliminating the subsidies for having children, if I understand correctly.
And that is all, what we can realistically hope for...
Alcassin wrote:EnergyUnlimited wrote:btu2012 wrote:So you would propose eliminating the subsidies for having children, if I understand correctly.
And that is all, what we can realistically hope for...
That is all what can be done, the rest is a merely academic discussion with many ideas and unacceptable solutions.
None of the projects presented by gg3 is going to be offered as a plan.
btu2012 wrote:
By your argument, Nazi Germany should have won WW2.
...Why did Germany loose given that its military machine was qualitatively superior ?
One word: size.
I think you're both wrong: it was energy.truecougarblue wrote:BZZZZZZ, sorry you are incorrect. One word, HITLERbtu2012 wrote:By your argument, Nazi Germany should have won WW2.
...Why did Germany loose given that its military machine was qualitatively superior?
One word: size.
btu2012 wrote:I started the thread because I need information on people's attitudes.
Ludi wrote:btu2012 wrote:I started the thread because I need information on people's attitudes.
What do you intend to do with this information, if you don't mind me asking?
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