Exploring Hydrocarbon Depletion
ritter wrote:This bites. I have a TDI wagon. I love(d) the car. I'm looking into replacements now if I can get out of my lease. But man, there are so few viable options that get decent mileage, hybrids included. Unfortunately, I need one car that is capable of more than 100 miles at a time and able to haul a family (family is all over the state) so pure electric is out. Plugin hybrids are a potential option but Christ they're expensive. I'd finally found a good solution that was the TDI. Now, I don't know....
dissident wrote:ritter wrote:This bites. I have a TDI wagon. I love(d) the car. I'm looking into replacements now if I can get out of my lease. But man, there are so few viable options that get decent mileage, hybrids included. Unfortunately, I need one car that is capable of more than 100 miles at a time and able to haul a family (family is all over the state) so pure electric is out. Plugin hybrids are a potential option but Christ they're expensive. I'd finally found a good solution that was the TDI. Now, I don't know....
Read my other post. You are being hoodwinked by the EPA and assorted hysterical nutjobs. A 2001 Skoda 1.9 TDI made by VW comes in at under 10 g(NOx) per kg fuel for normal driving conditions. The "clean" 2015 gasoline cars produce about 5 g(NOx)/kg. Commercial trucks spew 40 g(NOx)/kg.
All the VW hater clowns forget about the effect of fuel efficiency. A 50 mpg diesel is better than a 30 mpg gasoline car any day of the week. There are plenty of other sources of NOx that completely eclipse VW and its cheat. It was EPA's fault for being a collection of zealots and pressuring VW to have similar NOx emissions to gasoline engine cars. Some variables can't be tuned by technology. And at the end of the day mpg matters.
98,000 Volkswagen petrol vehicles were affected by the company's CO2 emissions- cheating scheme.
Volkswagen could have to pay back billions of pounds to European governments in tax credits after admitting it had found “irregularities” in the levels of carbon dioxide emitted by 800,000 of its cars.
Analysts said these costs were likely to relate to repaying tax credits in Europe. Germany, Britain and other countries set car vehicle tax rates based on CO2 emissions, suggesting VW and its drivers may have benefited from unduly low tax rates.
Stuart Pearson, analyst at stockbroker BNP Paribas Exane, said: “This [the cost] is equivalent to circa €2,500 per vehicle, and likely covers the cost of repaying tax credits or similar that vehicles earned due to lower CO2 test statistics than should have been awarded.
“It is not yet clear whether VW’s €2bn estimate covers any customer compensation or residual value impact, but we believe this is not included given it was also not a part of the €6.7bn provision booked for the original nitrogen oxide emissions issues.”
Pearson added that VW would probably not be forced to recall and fix vehicles because there is no blanket CO2 limit per car, unlike with NOx.
Pearson added that governments would be able to claim money back from VW without affecting motorists. “VW will likely need to repay CO2-related tax breaks etc to various national governments that its vehicles artificially ‘earned’. This gives governments a simple mechanism by which to ‘fine’ VW, without penalising the customer.”
The group of investors — including BlackRock — the world’s biggest fund manager and a leading VW shareholder — wants to overturn an outmoded system of laboratory analysis that critics claim allows manufacturers to achieve artificially enhanced results.
“Some investors have lost significant investment value,” said Stephanie Pfeifer, chief executive of the IIGCC, in an open letter to the EU policymakers. “Trust in emissions data urgently needs to be restored so that investors can be sure that official data is reliable.”
The fund managers — including Deutsche Asset and Wealth Management, Aberdeen Asset Management, Janus Capital and Amundi — said “robust” testing of a vehicle’s emissions was critically important so investors could be sure monitoring was reliable and “allocate capital to those entities that are best placed to deliver enduring value to shareholders”.
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