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Re: Germanys Flagship "Volkswagen" sink by own torpedo!

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sat 07 Nov 2015, 01:09:47

pstarr wrote: (that's one butt-ugly Prius pickup conversion)

Could be worse.
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Re: Germanys Flagship "Volkswagen" sink by own torpedo!

Unread postby GASMON » Sun 08 Nov 2015, 10:14:19

Clearly the EPA and the other zealots know basically f*ck all about physics.


You can add nearly every politician, worldwide, to that list.

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Re: Germanys Flagship "Volkswagen" sink by own torpedo!

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 01 Jan 2016, 19:53:45

Dieselgate: an analysis of VW's cheating firmware
Daniel Lange and Felix "tmbinc" Domke bought some of Volkswagen's cheating Engine Control Units on Ebay and extracted and decompiled the software in them to learn exactly how the cheating took place.

Their presentation at the thirty-second Chaos Communications Congress presents their findings, which include a detailed analysis of the software trickery used to detect when the car was being tested by a regulator to change the car's emissions characteristics.

They also reveal that they've discovered other cars that use VW's techniques to cheat on tests.

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Daniel (first half) has entertaining comments on the car markets and the inner workings of auto companies.
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Re: Germanys Flagship "Volkswagen" sink by own torpedo!

Unread postby M_B_S » Fri 20 Jan 2017, 06:35:21

German "Auto" Bosses with stomach problems because they f... the USA with help of German "Verkehrsminister"

Now the bill will be payed: Trump will rule the USA today.

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Ex-VW CEO Winterkorn denies knowing early about cheating
Originally published January 19, 2017 at 2:10 am Updated January 19, 2017 at 5:20 am

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Re: Germanys Flagship "Volkswagen" sink by own torpedo!

Unread postby dissident » Fri 17 Mar 2017, 17:31:22

This cheating crap is too much to take. Only in America and by default in poodle Canada are diesel engines subject to such draconian NOx regulations. In the EU, Australia, Japan and the rest of the freaking world diesel models are available from basically all the main manufacturers (Ford, GM, Mazda, etc.). The lawyer riff raff at the EPA must be closet global warming deniers, since they clearly support more CO2 emissions just to reduce NOx emissions. BTW, the EPA does not apply the same NOx standards to truck diesels so all of its air quality effort is utter BS.

Without the diesel option, VW is an also ran company. There is nothing special about their cars.
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Unread postby M_B_S » Sat 03 Jun 2017, 00:44:57

Germany: Volkswagen cheats the world with dirty diesel cars while Merkel beats the Trump Adminstration

Audi emissions scandal erupts after Germany says it detects new cheating


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Audi's (NSUG.DE) emissions scandal flared up again on Thursday after the German government accused the carmaker of cheating emissions tests with its top-end models, the first time Audi has been accused of such wrongdoing in its home country.

The German Transport Ministry said it has asked Volkswagen's (VOWG_p.DE) luxury division to recall around 24,000 A7 and A8 models built between 2009 and 2013, about half of which were sold in Germany.


VW Chief Executive Matthias Mueller was summoned to the Berlin-based ministry on Thursday, a ministry spokesman said, without elaborating. VW didn't return calls seeking comment.
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Re: Germanys Flagship "Volkswagen" sink by own torpedo!

Unread postby dissident » Sat 03 Jun 2017, 07:16:09

Oh please, spare this NOx BS. The biggest source of NOx pollution are coal power plants. The US improved its NOx levels in the eastern USA by shutting down coal power plants and not by removing diesels from cars. Shutting down coal power plants also reduces SOx levels which directly reduces aerosol pollution.
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Unread postby AdamB » Sat 03 Jun 2017, 07:42:21

dissident wrote:Oh please, spare this NOx BS. The biggest source of NOx pollution are coal power plants. The US improved its NOx levels in the eastern USA by shutting down coal power plants and not by removing diesels from cars. Shutting down c.oal power plants also reduces SOx levels which directly reduces aerosol pollution.


So? This is about cheating Krauts and holier than thou frauds. Who in this case also happen to be cheating Krauts. Grandpappy didn't land on the beaches of Normandy because the Frogs needed a righteous smackdown.
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Re: Germanys Flagship "Volkswagen" sink by own torpedo!

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Sun 04 Jun 2017, 13:10:37

dissident wrote:Oh please, spare this NOx BS. The biggest source of NOx pollution are coal power plants. The US improved its NOx levels in the eastern USA by shutting down coal power plants and not by removing diesels from cars. Shutting down coal power plants also reduces SOx levels which directly reduces aerosol pollution.

But that logic is the same as the AGW deniers claiming the US should do NOTHING about reducing CO2 emissions, since (for example) the evil Chinese are building coal plants.

So in your mind it's fine if cars spew all the bad stuff we can imagine, as long as there are any coal plants left?

The key principle is that VW was systematically lying and cheating.

I never liked VW in principle, because of bad service. Now I'd never buy one on principle, even if they switch to all EV's in the future.
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