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Geological & Cosmological Event Watch Thread pt 2

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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby StormBringer » Sat 02 May 2009, 18:26:27

ReverseEngineer wrote:Warming up for the Big One in LA. I miss Storm Bringer :-(

Ask And You Shall Recieve...........One of my nieghbors got a open network and when the wind is right i HAVE FREE NET...........lol And for the record I have missed the hek out of all of you....
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby StormBringer » Sat 02 May 2009, 19:17:05

R.E. sorry i missed the action in your nieghborhood hope everything is O.K. for you. I see the USGS map is very active even at old yeller so now that Im back, catch me up on whats going on?????

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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby dunewalker » Sat 02 May 2009, 21:08:02

About time you posted! Just remember the admonishment to the left of the posting box:


"... message...may contain no more than 60000 characters."

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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby StormBringer » Sat 02 May 2009, 23:23:00

NASA: Impact of Solar Flare


NASA's 132-page report, entitled Severe Space Weather Events — Understanding Societal and Economic Impacts, paints a pretty grim picture of the damage that could occur in the USA (and presumably elsewhere in the world) due to severe space weather:

According to the report, power grids may be more vulnerable than ever. The problem is interconnectedness. In recent years, utilities have joined grids together to allow long-distance transmission of low-cost power to areas of sudden demand. On a hot summer day in California, for instance, people in Los Angeles might be running their air conditioners on power routed from Oregon. It makes economic sense—but not necessarily geomagnetic sense. Interconnectedness makes the system susceptible to wide-ranging "cascade failures."

...He found more than 350 transformers at risk of permanent damage and 130 million people without power. The loss of electricity would ripple across the social infrastructure with "water distribution affected within several hours; perishable foods and medications lost in 12-24 hours; loss of heating/air conditioning, sewage disposal, phone service, fuel re-supply and so on."
The solution is a more sturdy electric infrastructure. Who knows if or when that will occur. Meanwhile the severe space weather could happen at any time, even tomorrow.
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby StormBringer » Sat 02 May 2009, 23:32:12

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17073-nearby-asteroid-found-orbiting-sun-backwards.htmlNew Asteroid Threat

Sorry Brain Fart been a while cant remember how to short link....Someone remind me please...
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby StormBringer » Sun 03 May 2009, 07:13:46

Morning everyone............LOL
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby StormBringer » Sun 03 May 2009, 09:28:38

Hey Old Yeller had some action on the 29th and all where directly on the uplift area of what is believed to be the new caldera.

MAG UTC DATE-TIME
y/m/d h:m:s LAT
deg LON
deg DEPTH
km LOCATION
MAP 1.0 2009/04/29 01:50:21 44.600 -110.671 4.8 35 km ( 22 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2009/04/29 01:36:59 44.603 -110.633 7.3 38 km ( 24 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2009/04/29 01:33:49 44.571 -110.673 1.2 36 km ( 22 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2009/04/29 01:33:07 44.593 -110.667 4.7 36 km ( 22 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2009/04/29 01:29:25 44.597 -110.638 7.0 38 km ( 23 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2009/04/29 01:29:04 44.549 -110.710 2.5 34 km ( 21 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2009/04/29 01:26:12 44.593 -110.654 4.8 37 km ( 23 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.7 2009/04/29 01:23:16 44.591 -110.674 6.5 35 km ( 22 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.4 2009/04/29 01:20:23 44.599 -110.674 7.2 35 km ( 22 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.0 2009/04/29 01:17:22 44.531 -110.686 14.5 36 km ( 23 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.2 2009/04/29 01:17:11 44.592 -110.669 9.9 35 km ( 22 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.0 2009/04/29 01:15:40 44.592 -110.681 7.5 35 km ( 21 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.7 2009/04/29 01:14:33 44.536 -110.767 14.9 30 km ( 19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.7 2009/04/29 01:13:23 44.593 -110.680 6.5 35 km ( 22 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.9 2009/04/29 01:12:56 44.590 -110.679 5.4 35 km ( 22 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.8 2009/04/29 01:12:20 44.593 -110.680 5.8 35 km ( 21 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.1 2009/04/29 01:09:28 44.599 -110.664 6.2 36 km ( 22 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2009/04/29 01:09:07 44.596 -110.698 0.0 33 km ( 21 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.3 2009/04/29 01:08:54 44.595 -110.674 6.3 35 km ( 22 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.6 2009/04/29 01:03:38 44.587 -110.692 0.1 34 km ( 21 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT


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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby StormBringer » Mon 04 May 2009, 20:55:03

Submitted by Billy Hackett on Mon, 05/04/2009 - 05:23.
Mount Redoubt is showing increased signs of unrest. The volcano about 100 miles southwest of Anchorage continues to rumble and grumble, and yesterday produced an ash and steam plume that went 18,000 feet into the air. The Alaska Volcano Observatory says the day began with more continuous ash emissions. The significant ash plume occurred in the afternoon. The volcano has its last major explosion on April 4.

(Associated Press)

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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby mos6507 » Tue 05 May 2009, 08:56:24

StormBringer wrote:
RedStateGreen wrote:Welcome back Stormbringer!


Thank You..........Back With A Vengence


Is this a sign that Yellowstone Caldera is heating up again?
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby StormBringer » Tue 05 May 2009, 19:16:02

mos6507 wrote:
Is this a sign that Yellowstone Caldera is heating up again?


Not really just interesting events as this point.................too early to tell..........
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby stonecypher » Tue 05 May 2009, 20:46:41

Maybe R.E. got caught in one of the Redoubt rockfalls...

http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=10295116

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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby StormBringer » Fri 08 May 2009, 21:08:42

Pole Shift - A Disaster Waiting to Happen?
An impending magnetic, or pole, reversal was one of the hot topics of
the 80's when the book "Pole Shift" by John White was a best seller
and it was thought that it might happen any time now.
As with most prophesies around the end of the twentieth century, the
sense of impending doom has lessened and the pole shift "warning" has
been downgraded to a pole shift "watch."
But this is one of those things that are very probably going to happen
at some point "soon" in the earth's history....it's just that mankind
has a very small view of the overall earth clock, and to the earth,
"soon" could mean anytime in the next 100,000 years, so don't hold
your breath. Scientists currently tell us that pole shifts occur, on
average, once every 500,000 years. The last pole shift was 780,000
years ago so we are overdue for one (just as we are overdue for a big
asteroid strike, and for a super volcano eruption....just hope they
don't all happen at once!)

The planet's geologic record has very clear evidence that pole shifts
have occurred many times in the past and there is no doubt that they
will occur again. ( The phenomenon referred to here as a "pole shift"
is not the shifting of the crust by thousands of miles, but rather,
changes in the magnetic field of the planet. Some unscrupulous writers
in the 70s and 80s tried to imply that the continents were going to
start sliding about like melting ice on a hot plate, but that's not
current scientific thinking.)

However, its not all good news. Until recently, it was thought that
pole shifts were a gradual process. But recent evidence from studying
the alignment of iron particles in lava flows found one case where the
Earth's magnetic field shifted 80 degrees in 13 days.
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby StormBringer » Fri 08 May 2009, 21:12:40

80 Deg. in 13 days would be eventful to say the least...........Any speculation on what might be the result of such a rapid switch??????
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby alokin » Fri 08 May 2009, 21:42:45

That would be huge nearly right angle and what the equator is now would be the north pole. That would mean the equator becomes cold and the poles hot..? Just my unscientific speculation.
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby alokin » Fri 08 May 2009, 22:23:57

New article about sunspot cycles:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090508/ap_on_sc/us_sci_space_weather
, maybe nothing new for you.
It's a bit confusing as they write:
Warning: Sunspot cycle beginning to rise

and later in the article they state that we are entering the lowest cycle.
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 09 May 2009, 08:00:00

StormBringer wrote:80 Deg. in 13 days would be eventful to say the least...........Any speculation on what might be the result of such a rapid switch??????


Yeah, possible 300 mph winds for one.
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby RdSnt » Sat 09 May 2009, 16:23:57

alokin wrote:That would be huge nearly right angle and what the equator is now would be the north pole. That would mean the equator becomes cold and the poles hot..? Just my unscientific speculation.


Sigh :roll:
Nothing much would happen. The magnetic field may shift but the earth's rotation would not. No the equator would not change and no the north pole would not suddenly get really hot.

The earth's rotation is not generated by the magnetic field. Conversely, it only a theory that the magnetic field is generated by the spin of the earth. In the end we don't know for sure what is creating the magnetic field.
Gravity is not a force, it is a boundary layer.
Everything is coincident.
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To get any appreciable distance from the Earth in
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby StormBringer » Mon 11 May 2009, 16:43:55

Either way it would be intense to happen so quickly. And there are theories about the mag shift and the continental plate drift being linked. Now if this drift was to suddenly change direction???? Just food for thought....
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Mon 11 May 2009, 18:09:39

alokin wrote:That would be huge nearly right angle and what the equator is now would be the north pole. That would mean the equator becomes cold and the poles hot..? Just my unscientific speculation.


A lot of people who like to use the compass in their mini-van to see what direction they are going would be very, very confused.
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Re: Geological and Cosmological Event Watch Thread

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 11 May 2009, 18:36:45

RdSnt wrote:In the end we don't know for sure what is creating the magnetic field.

Or something...

"At the heart of our planet lies a solid iron ball, about as hot as the surface of the sun. Researchers call it "the inner core." It's really a world within a world. The inner core is 70% as wide as the moon. It spins at its own rate, as much as 0.2o of longitude per year faster than the Earth above it, and it has its own ocean: a very deep layer of liquid iron known as "the outer core."

Earth's magnetic field comes from this ocean of iron, which is an electrically conducting fluid in constant motion. Sitting atop the hot inner core, the liquid outer core seethes and roils like water in a pan on a hot stove. The outer core also has "hurricanes"--whirlpools powered by the Coriolis forces of Earth's rotation. These complex motions generate our planet's magnetism through a process called the dynamo effect." link
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