C8 wrote: Coal has been flat for most of this period but has been positively kicking butt the last 15 years ....
C8 wrote: Were screwed
Plantagenet wrote:Blame Al Gore and his idiotic decision to let China
C8 wrote:Here is a fun chart for all you chart watchers:
A couple of takaways:
1. Yes, renewables are increasing as a share of energy sources- but at a miserable crawl. At this rate renewables MAY account for only 20% of energy sources in another 30 years.
2. Coal has been flat for most of this period but has been positively kicking butt the last 15 years (and all fossil fuels have been rising rapidly- so much for "peak whatever")
3. Nuclear power hasn't grown that much in the last 20 years (thanks Democrats and anti-nuclear activists for pushing the whole world deep into global warming by making fossil fuels the only other affordable option!!!! You hysterical foot stomping has been a tremendous service to future generations)
4. Were screwed
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada wrote:Coal is cheap and plentiful, that is all TPTB care about because supplying cheap electricity to the non-elites helps them maintain their grip on political power.
ennui2 wrote:Tanada wrote:Coal is cheap and plentiful, that is all TPTB care about because supplying cheap electricity to the non-elites helps them maintain their grip on political power.
Yeah. "non-elites" would be perfectly happy if they didn't have electricity. No coal-demand there. They're all innocent little victims. It's all those nasty TPTB's! If not for them, nobody would be baking the planet, right? Come on. This is becoming quite the blame-game thread, as usual.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada wrote:Stop playing the fool Mos, I ain't interested. TPTB decide what kind of plant gets built and what kind of fuels they use.
Tanada wrote:My only speculation is what their motivation for choosing cheap fossil fuels is, which I stated plainly.
Lower demand for U.S. coal, primarily used to generate electric power, driven by competitive natural gas prices, increasing use of renewable generation, flat electricity demand, and environmental regulations *, has contributed to lower U.S. coal production.
ROCKMAN wrote:T - " TPTB decide what kind of plant gets built and what kind of fuels they use. My only speculation is what their motivation for choosing cheap fossil fuels is..." I can only speak about Texas. Been a TBC (Texan By Choice) for over 35 years. TPTB and the state politicians had little say in the subject of either burning lignite, building the big S Texas Nuclear plant or building out wind power. TPTB did it because that's what the consumers wanted and would pay for. The politicians did it because they wouldn't get re-elected by the consumers if they didn't.
Folks in Texas wouldn't like to hear me say this but it is what it is: Texans don't care about AGW or about future generations. They don't care what the politicians say we should doing order to be good stewards of the land. And they don't care what TPTB want to do. They want what they want and f*ck everyone else. LOL.
OTOH are Texans really that different from all other US citizens? The only significant difference is that we don't really give a sh*t what the rest of you think about us. LOL.
Apneaman wrote:You're pretzel logic comment....
Plantagenet wrote:C8 wrote: Coal has been flat for most of this period but has been positively kicking butt the last 15 years ....
Yup.
Blame Al Gore and his idiotic decision to let China weasel out of the Kyoto Accords----virtually all the huge rise in coal use comes from China's subsequent massive increase in the use of coal-fired electrical plants.
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