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Book: 'Madmen at the Helm' by Monte Myers

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Re: 'Madmen at the Helm' Monte Myers

Unread postby MonteQuest » Thu 22 Mar 2007, 22:25:22

PenultimateManStanding wrote:Is this what you mean by favorable reviews? Your book should have been no more than an article, an opinion piece. I was reading it and waiting for the gist after multiple chapters. You aren't a writer, is all. You have insights to offer, I won't contest that.


No one else had that trouble. The gist was laid out quite clearly in the foreword:

Foreword

“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction....The chain reaction of evil -- hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars -- must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.”
—Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968)

In every person’s lifetime, I hope there comes a time when they feel they must do what they can for the betterment of man. Today, I find myself at that crossroads, endeavoring to impart some of my gathered wisdom to those who seek answers and to those who seek to know more.

There have always been wealthy, erudite and powerful men who have wished to rule the entire world—secure in the notion that they would know what was best for the masses. In the past, conquest has failed to achieve this, due to the resulting outrage and awareness of the enemy. In our present time, there is a group of such men who are trying a subtle but effective way to rule. This is to gradually infiltrate and delude the masses into accepting their ideas for a New World Order, and the subjugation of our Constitutional Republic. Such subtle gradualism—along with “media events” ad nauseam, such as the OJ Simpson Trial, the Y2K Bug, Princess Diana, the War on Terror, and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth—is being used effectively to obscure the real issues and change the public focus. Few people will therefore be aware of what is really happening in this country.

In this book, I hope to lay the ground work for your own due diligence into the forces at play here. They have been at this for a very long time, and circumstances like 9/11 have provided them with an opportunity to accelerate their plans. What is at stake is nothing short of our Constitution and the civil liberties that go with it.

Copyright © 2004 by Monte L. Myers
All rights reserved.


And in the first chapter:

The purpose of this book, then, is to revisit the history of American foreign policy and the wars that followed. We will be examining issues that may make you wonder “What on earth has this to do with today.” But I can assure you, when we reach the end of our journey; you will see that everything we cover has a direct relevance to today and, in particular, to the war on terrorism. Perhaps we can learn from those lessons of history, and somehow find a foreign policy for the new century that might unite most of us, and ensure that America endures as the greatest republic in history, rather than just another fallen empire.
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Re: 'Madmen at the Helm' Monte Myers

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 22 Mar 2007, 22:37:56

god bless, Monte. I have no problem with your ernestness. I'm just saying you suck as a writer.
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Re: 'Madmen at the Helm' Monte Myers

Unread postby MonteQuest » Thu 22 Mar 2007, 22:45:58

PenultimateManStanding wrote:god bless, Monte. I have no problem with your ernestness. I'm just saying you suck as a writer.


Can't please everyone. :)
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Re: 'Madmen at the Helm' Monte Myers

Unread postby Chaparral » Mon 23 Apr 2007, 05:01:09

I think it has potential. A little cleaning up of odd paragraphs here and there, but especially in the last 35 pages or so would help. I think It would have a place on the bookshelf along with William Clark, Mike Ruppert, John Perkins, Peter Dale Scott et al. Like another poster mentioned, addition of the burning of the Reichstag would help, as would a comprehensive bibliography. I could see it being published by an outfit like New Society Publishing and probably easily coming out to 170-220 pages when all is said and done.

The perpective of collectivism vs individualism and the role of the Illuminati render the work, IMO pertinent to more than just the '04 elections: In my opinion, the perspective offered by 'Madmen at the Helm' deserves a wider audience. The last 4 years of history along with the recent sharp drop of the USD relative to other currencies might also find its way into a polished edition ready for the bookshelves at Borders or Barnes and Noble. It would also be interesting to see what sorts of competing interests in China, Russia, the Vatican or elsewhere might be lining up alongside or against the Fabians or the Lenninists. There is a lot to ponder here. I sense a larger cohesive picture but I cannot put it all together just yet.

Reading the book has gotten me thinking about Monte's threads on population reduction a little differently: I might try and look at those problems from the point of view of the so called illuminati and the tools at their disposal.
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Re: 'Madmen at the Helm' Monte Myers

Unread postby NEOPO » Tue 24 Apr 2007, 00:19:30

Forewords are good and so is reviving old threads.

I am glad to have been able to see many things on my own Monte, yet from these comments it sounds like a noble first effort that perhaps after several years of refinement should now be revised with the PMS' of the world in mind.
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Re: 'Madmen at the Helm' Monte Myers

Unread postby waegari » Fri 27 Apr 2007, 05:57:01

Chaparral wrote: Like another poster mentioned, addition of the burning of the Reichstag would help, .



It would only help to show the weaknesses of conspiracy theory. Only people who have not read any edition of Van der Lubbe's diaries can believe he did not do it on his own.

As his diary clearly shows, he wanted to set an example for the European Left, who he felt were not taking convincing measures against Hilter/Mussolini. By his deed he wanted to rally their resistance.

...It's deeply sad that from many of those (especially Americans) who should be on his side, he does not get credit for his bravery.
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Re: 'Madmen at the Helm' Monte Myers

Unread postby waegari » Fri 27 Apr 2007, 06:08:48

The French edition of Van der Lubbe's travel diary, leading up to the Reichstag fire, can be found here: http://www.amazon.fr/Carnet-route-lince ... 334&sr=8-2

The thorough introduction, written from a leftist standpoint, makes a strong case against all possible conspiracy theories, concerning Van der Lubbe.
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Re: 'Madmen at the Helm' Monte Myers

Unread postby chuck6877 » Thu 26 Jul 2007, 00:45:42

Monte,

I read your book in the past and loved it. It has made me explore so much more. Ruppert's book, "Crossing the Rubicon" had the same effect on me.

I really want to know how you feel about this:
Do you think peak oil is being used by the illuminati/secret govt. etc for population reduction and chaos to eventually bring about the New World Order in the future?

I find so much discussing how the elites want population reduction. It also is very apparent to me that peak oil is being allowed to happen. Any alternatives that would make a difference are being avoided. I think peak oil and complete collapse of the world economies is part of their plan........... When the dust settles the NWO will emerge to make things better....

Also, do you think the Illuminati is the center of control and that they manipulate groups like the neocons, CFR, etc. to do their work and to provide a pretty story for the people to digest that keeps the Illuminati's existence secret?

Thanks for your book,
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