MonteQuest wrote:Sixstrings wrote:Fundamentally, immigration is not within the state's jurisdiction.
They aren't claiming it is.
Well, that will be decided in federal court. But I sympathize, by the way. Immigration, both illegal and legal, does nothing but put Americans out of work (along with outsourcing via globalism, insourcing via immigration is just as destructive). Now if an immigrant comes here on an investor visa, and he's literally got a big chunk of money to start a new business with then that's a good thing. But when immigrants come over penniless with the intent of just sending their wages back home to Mexico, or Microsoft hires an H1B visa Indian just because he's cheaper than an American, then that's bad for the economy (unless you're the business owner profiting off cheap labor, then for you it's good).
Bottom line, unemployment is just way too high right now -- immigration needs to be stopped cold, both legal and illegal. UNLESS they're coming over with enough money to start a business. Otherwise, immigrants just take Americans' jobs and / or depress wages for everyone. Keep in mind, if we had a labor shortage like in decades past then of course immigration would make sense. It's just craziness given our current levels of unemployment.
Getting back to Arizona.. you guys are stuck between a rock and a hard place. TPTB have no intention of slowing down illegal immigration from Mexico. At best, you guys will force them to grant amnesty or start up a guest worker program.
As for the fairness of the law, as anti-immigration as I am, I actually don't like the idea of someone getting extra scrutiny just because he looks hispanic. Just imagine if you were a latino US citizen -- think about how insulted you would feel if some cop asked for proof of your citizenship. Proof of being licensed to drive is one thing, but having to show papers because your skin is dark is something else.
The other issue here is that it really is bad for law enforcement. The local cops are supposed to be handling robberies, violent crimes, petty theft / fraud and the like. Now how are you going to investigate crimes if a big portion of your population is terrified to talk to you? On the other hand, I can understand you guys must be really nervous about the drug war violence spilling over from Mexico to the US. So I can see why this law was passed, what else can you do when the federal government wants the open border to continue? Democrats want the votes, and fat cat Republicans want the cheap Mexican labor -- that's why nothing will ever get done about this.