Pops wrote:Actually I got to thinking about the so called dark ages after you mentioned it Six, I only read a little on Wiki but the upshot seemed to be modern scholars don't seem to think they weren't necessarily that dark. I'd wager the church had a lot to do with the lack of popular history. And really, they were dark compared to what?
I don't intend to derail the thread into a history chat, just to say that when we talk about collapse we're talking about collapse of our civilization, and it's worth noting the West collapsed once before.
The Romans were surprisingly modern. They had apartments, businesses, law, lawyers, citizenship (as opposed to feudal subjects). Not to mention engineering.. hydro power, aquaducts, excellent roads. And culture, philosophy.. that was all mostly lost in the Dark Ages. People didn't even bathe in the Dark Ages as compared to Roman times.
In a Western Civ collapse redux, there could be a group that keeps the candle flame lit. I don't see it being our current fundamentalist churches though.. they're trying to take science out of the textbooks right now.
Without getting too far off topic, my point is that human knowledge is passed down generation to generation. If you get all hell breaking loose for a few generations, a lot WILL be lost. Printed books can preserve knowledge, but history shows in troubled times books get burned. Now factor in the digital age.. if the lights go out then there's no more Wikipedia to read up on about the Dark Ages..