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2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby M_B_S » Thu 22 Jun 2017, 02:54:57

https://m.gulf-times.com/Story/553960

My prediction is a massiv (~50%) crop failore in West Europe 2017

Mainly France Germany Portugal Spain Austria Swiss Italy

http://www.producer.com/daily/weather-d ... this-week/
Our only hope is east Europe mainly Russia and Ukraine

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuter ... 8-pct.html

Dear Europeans+People of the world now its time to pray/hope that the brutal heatwave and or wild fire do not hit Russia 2017 as it did 2010-2011
https://www.oxfam.org/sites/www.oxfam.o ... 611-en.pdf
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/business-121 ... export-ban

Europe is not able to feed itself (people + domestic animal + pets)

It is absolutly stupid to let millions of people flooding into a overpopulated exhausted kontinent :!: :idea:

PEAK OIL <=> PEAK FOOD!

Do the readers here realy think we PEAK OILER are wrong? Thats a deadly mistake!
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You cannot eat money it is created out of nothing so can you eat nothing for a while? :!: :idea:

USA is good ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WjF_9xxN14
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WHO is system relevant?

Bank(st)er or Farmer ?


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Unread postby Whitefang » Thu 22 Jun 2017, 04:01:47

Yeah mbs, over 700 million and counting......our regime, our management is using terror tactics and prepping for famine, floods and civil war.
Since this is already going on there is nothing to be done, voting or demonstrating will not do, our kings laugh about it...silly people.
The thing that hurts them is taking their possessions like South Africa holding one of those phosphate ships:

Unfortunately no Judge will take the case of evicting a king from his palace......if you become a real threat or serious opponant, you will be hunted down by all means available, mass media, chemical weapons................

https://www.reuters.com/article/western ... SL8N1JC1V1

A South African court ruled on Thursday that a seized ship carrying a Moroccan cargo of phosphate from the disputed Western Sahara should remain in port until the case goes to trial or security is posted, a lawyer for the Polisario independence movement said.

The Polisario Front alleges the 50,000 tonne shipment en route to New Zealand was illegally taken from Western Sahara territory and went to court to have the cargo seized.

The case is a test of Polisario's new legal tactic in its long-running conflict with Morocco over Western Sahara, a disputed territory where the two sides fought a war until a 1991 ceasefire and where U.N. talks have failed to reach an accord.

The Marshall Island-flagged NM Cherry Blossom was detained under a civil maritime court order in South Africa's Port Elizabeth last month as part of Polisario's attempt to take advantage of a European court ruling last year that Western Sahara should not be considered part of Morocco in EU and Moroccan deals.


Meanwhile Riffian people strike, demonstrate, throw stones.....get tortured, end up in jail....missing.......al that stupidity does not help one inch.
That one ship, that is where it hurts, take the energy, the power, the money back to people, share remaining resources equally.
Mission here on Earth is to take only what you need, will be our greatest accomplishment if this ever happens. Can be done as a person though, regardless of what others do.
I am still taking way too much, I need sobriety for I am a very indulgent human being.

Been looking into Rif affairs, married my arab queen from top of the Rif so had to do battle there myself, had to stand up for my wife and will return with family there this summer to do some more..........they helped me find my guts, erase my fears and leave that darkness of being worried all the time, find love and joy in living, even against all those odds :-D

I will not enlist in any army and take part in collective idiocy, but we are all going to war now and will all have to fight for our families somewhere next decade, our loved ones, our children,
so there we go, with fear, with respect and trust in yourself.

It does help to do your preps, learn where to go, use tools like weapons, get fit and healthy, the first thing soldiers do when in training, practice fighting before the life or death situation takes you by surprise, do martial art.

To me, going into the Rif, deal with people and the heat, is active prepping, not only watching discovery survival drama's and reading up on how to make a fire without that handy lighter :roll:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 33766.html

In Morocco, the act of nonviolent protesting, a basic tenet of any country aspiring to be a democracy, is becoming impeded along with the freedom of expression. Television channels have been misinforming the public by associating the recent rallies with images that have nothing to do with the Popular Movement. And security forces have been clashing with nonviolent protesters.

READ MORE: Morocco's Al-Hoceima protests reflect 'a heavy legacy'

But there are people who are fighting for Morocco's democracy. In a joint statement three political parties condemned media practices that deform the facts about the protest movement. Civil society leaders and intellectuals have come out to condemn the government's use of force and crackdown of activists. They argued that the problems will not be solved though instilling a culture of fear.

WATCH: Protesters demand release of jailed activist in Morocco (1:53)

In response, the government retracted its original accusations about protestors being "separatists" that are backed by external forces. The king sent a large delegation of ministers to Al-Hoceima, with promises of billions of Moroccan dirhams to fund projects to boost the local economy and build infrastructure.

Furthermore, the provincial offices of three parties released a joint statement on May 29 expressing that they are "greatly preoccupied" with the situation and calling for the immediate release of all the Hirak protesters who were arrested.


Riffians are a courageous and sturdy people, one of the first people to get hit by chemical weapons of mass destruction after they won a battle with the Spanish army:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_ ... he_Rif_War

According to Sebastian Balfour, the motivation for the chemical attacks was based primarily on revenge for the defeat of the Spanish Army of Africa and their Moroccan recruits the Regulares[5] at the Battle of Annual on July 22, 1921.[6]
The Spanish defeat, the disaster of Annual, with 13,000 Spanish and colonial soldiers dead, many of them killed in cold blood after surrender to Rif armies, according to the official count, led to a major political crisis and a redefinition of Spanish colonial policy toward the Rif region. The political crisis led Indalecio Prieto to say in the Congress of Deputies: "We are at the most acute period of Spanish decadence. The campaign in Africa is a total failure, absolute, without extenuation, of the Spanish Army."


Spain was one of the first powers to use chemical weapons against civilian populaces[7] in their use against the Rif rebellion. Between 1921 and 1927, the Spanish army indiscriminately used phosgene, diphosgene, chloropicrin and mustard gas (known as Iperita[8]).[9][10] Common targets were civilian populations, markets, and rivers.[10] In a telegram sent by the High Commissioner of Spanish Morocco Dámaso Berenguer on August 12, 1921 to the Spanish minister of War, Berenguer stated:[11]


I have been obstinately resistant to the use of suffocating gases against these indigenous peoples but after what they have done, and of their treasonous and deceptive conduct, I have to use them with true joy.

On August 20, 1921, Spain asked Germany to deliver mustard gas via Hugo Stoltzenberg, although Germany was prohibited from manufacturing such weapons by the Treaty of Versailles of 1919. The first delivery occurred in 1923.[11] The use of chemical weapons against the Rif was first described in an article of a (now defunct) Francophone daily newspaper published in Tangier called La Dépêche marocaine dated on November 27, 1921.[12][13] Historian Juan Pando has been the only Spanish historian to have confirmed the usage of mustard gas starting in 1923.[11] Spanish newspaper La Correspondencia de España published an article called Cartas de un soldado (Letters of a soldier) on August 16, 1923 which backed the usage of mustard gas.[12]


A bit later, 1958 revolt:

http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/20 ... t-(1958-59)

The monarchy also imposed a media blackout alongside the military operations. Journalists, especially foreign ones, were not permitted to stay in the region. Those who dared to venture on without permission were arrested and deported. Such was the case with several French, English, and American media correspondents. Moroccan newspapers, whatever their political background, were content to reproduce the information that the authorities passed along and publish controlled editorials that cried conspiracy. Publications that deviated from the official narrative were immediately censured.

Even though they were poorly armed and held to no foreign support, Ameziane’s two to three thousand men (most of whom were veterans of the Spanish legion, the Moroccan Liberation Army, and Khattabi’s army) succeeded in defeating the royal army in a number of instances. Nearly one thousand soldiers lost their lives. Insurgent fire even damaged the crown prince’s airplane, though Moulay Hassan survived. Combat was so harsh, especially in Beni Ouriaghel and Gueznaya, that the army resorted to French aviation, artillery, and tanks for their own advantage. It was only two weeks later that the insurgents were derailed. While the majority of the leaders were arrested, some of them managed to get away. Ameziane initially sought refuge in Spain before leaving for Egypt then Iraq. Prince Moulay Hassan and Oufkir’s men proved to be ruthless toward the innocent population with extortion, arbitrary arrests, rape, and executions. The Beni Hadifa village, for example, one of the strongholds of the revolt, was destroyed and its four hundred inhabitants were massacred. In total, the suppression of the revolt resulted in thousands of victims and serious psychological, social, political, and economic consequences.

After months of “cleaning operations,” to use military jargon, Mohammed V launched a triumphal tour in the Rif during 1959 to display his power and the end of the last harka. Within a matter of months, he succeeded in defeating the odds and emerged as the master of the country, monopolizing both the armed forces and the bureaucracy, as well as permanently weakening the opposition. This ascension to absolute power was facilitated under France’s blessing, an alliance with the rural notables, military support, and the implosion/explosion of the Istiqlal Party. The Rif was, without a doubt, one of the main victims of a grand power scheme to control the state…to become the state.
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby Whitefang » Thu 22 Jun 2017, 05:46:38

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_(Morocco)

Did I mention bread is going to double or tripple in price?
Together with energy, dieselfuel and thus transport, now only 5 Dirham, next year above 10 Dh, that will be a blast.
There will be people without anything to loose, they will take down those with everything to loose.

Crackdowns on protesters. Hundreds were killed and thousands arrested in connection with demonstrations and politicized labor strikes against the government. Protest rioting became so intense during some years in the 1970s that tanks occasionally patrolled the streets of major Moroccan cities[citation needed]. Casualties among demonstrators occurred in Casablanca in 1981 and in Fes in 1990.
Purges of the army. After the attempted military coups against the king in 1971 and 1972, officers and other involved putschists were rounded up and sent to secret detention camps such as Tazmamart, where many died. Mohamed Oufkir, Hassan II's right-hand man in the 1960s, convicted in France for the assassination of Mehdi Ben Barka, was himself executed in 1972 after a failed coup attempt. Oufkir's children were imprisoned in retaliation. His daughter, Malika Oufkir, wrote a book title Stolen Lives: Twenty Years in a Desert Jail recounting the experience.
Western Sahara. In 1975, Morocco delivred Sahara Spanish Sahara during the Green March.
Rif Wars. In 1958-59, the Moroccan army fought rebellious Berber tribes in the Rif mountains that resented the Alaouite Dynasty's rule. The uprisings were harshly put down with thousands of casualties. Including these events as forming part of the "Years of Lead" would greatly increase the figures concerning victims. The Rif mountains continue to be semi-autonomous, with the main hashish crop taxed, but not otherwise controlled.
The Michelin map of Morocco was banned, since it did not show the government-approved boundary between Morocco and Algeria (three towns on the border are disputed). Historical books such as Lords of the Atlas: The Rise and Fall of the House of Glaoua 1893-1956 by Gavin Maxwell [1] were considered subversive and could not be imported legally


http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featur ... 42685.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5F5MKZ ... e=youtu.be

The city of Ceuta is the southernmost outpost of fortress Europe. Yet it is on mainland Africa - opposite the Straights of Gibraltar. It is one of the last vestiges of Spanish rule in northern Morocco.

Today this no longer an issue isolated in a faraway Spanish enclave. The number of people hoping to reach Europe has swelled by a huge wave of refugees from wars in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.
Thousands of people are testing Europe's borders, by the sea from Libya to Italy, and from Turkey to Greece, and then continuing over land to Europe's more affluent countries.
In response Europe is building more walls. Today there are five existing fences across the continent, with at least another six either in construction or scheduled.

Most of these walls separate EU nations from countries outside the European Union, but some fences are planned between member states - a move that's against the spirit of the EU, according to the EU's foreign policy chief.
"Europe was built on the idea that walls have to come down. It was built on the idea of coming together. Of overcoming differences. Of united. Walls are never the solution," said Federica Mogherini, the EU High Representative, Foreign Affairs.
Without a political solution in sight, migrants and refugees remain undeterred, taking on increasingly dangerous routes into Europe.


"The European Court of Justice decision was kind of a pyrrhic victory for Morocco," said Markus Gehring, lecturer in law at the University of Cambridge. "For the past […] 50 years, the parties agreed to disagree on the status of the Western Sahara and that is perhaps no longer a tenable situation."

On February 6, a week and a half before the mass Ceuta border crossings, Morocco's Minister of Agriculture Aziz Akhannouch called on Europe to find a solution to the trade dispute, warning that failure to do so would bring "grave consequences", both commercially and in migration policy.

"Any impediment to the application of this agreement is a direct attack on thousands of jobs on both sides in extremely sensitive sectors and a real risk of resumption of migratory flows that Morocco has managed and maintained through sustained effort," Akhannouch said in a press release.

Between 25,000 and 40,000 sub-Saharan African migrants are believed to be living in Morocco at the moment, many of whom intend to continue on to Europe, according to Ivan Martin of the Interdisciplinary Research Centre on Immigration at Pompeu Fabra University.

Morocco has worked closely with Europe to regularise migrants there and block them from continuing on towards Spain along the so-called Western Mediterranean Route to Europe.
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby sparky » Thu 22 Jun 2017, 08:54:24

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........Usual doomer rubbish !

http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/usda/cu ... 9-2017.pdf

"Global wheat supplies for 2017/18 are raised 2.8 million tons, primarily on higher forecast
wheat production for Russia, which is up 2.0 million tons to 69.0 million. Conditions continue
to be favorable for winter wheat in most areas since the crop emerged from dormancy.

" European Union wheat production is forecast modestly lower at 150.8 million tons on a smaller
expected crop in Germany but still 4 percent above last year. "

if facts are bothersome , ignore the facts most people will never ever bother to check
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby M_B_S » Thu 22 Jun 2017, 08:57:44

sparky wrote:.
........Usual doomer rubbish !

http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/usda/cu ... 9-2017.pdf

"Global wheat supplies for 2017/18 are raised 2.8 million tons, primarily on higher forecast
wheat production for Russia, which is up 2.0 million tons to 69.0 million. Conditions continue
to be favorable for winter wheat in most areas since the crop emerged from dormancy.

" European Union wheat production is forecast modestly lower at 150.8 million tons on a smaller
expected crop in Germany but still 4 percent above last year. "

if facts are bothersome , ignore the facts most people will never ever bother to check


I hope you are correct realy i hope you are correct!

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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 22 Jun 2017, 09:33:58

As usual, the answer is likely somewhere in the middle.

Every time there is a significant glitch in a major crop, the doomers get excited.

Prices rise, temporarily, as they should. That's how markets work.

However, the concerns the OP post implies, that BAU growth puts increasing strain on systems like food systems year after year, decade after decade -- and that eventually, something beyond a glitch will occur are valid.

The fact that some areas can't feed themselves is valid. That can be remedied with trade -- UNTIL something major goes wrong and something in the system breaks down for awhile. (War? Transport? Disease? Something we don't expect?)

As usual, the difference I have with much of the doomer community is one of time scale. Long term, or perhaps mid term given AGW worsening -- bad things will happen. However, every short term glitch isn't a cause to sound the sirens of alarm -- just a reminder that the system has key dependencies.

IMO, as a moderate.
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby evilgenius » Thu 22 Jun 2017, 10:20:50

Outcast_Searcher wrote:As usual, the answer is likely somewhere in the middle.

Every time there is a significant glitch in a major crop, the doomers get excited.

Prices rise, temporarily, as they should. That's how markets work.

However, the concerns the OP post implies, that BAU growth puts increasing strain on systems like food systems year after year, decade after decade -- and that eventually, something beyond a glitch will occur are valid.

The fact that some areas can't feed themselves is valid. That can be remedied with trade -- UNTIL something major goes wrong and something in the system breaks down for awhile. (War? Transport? Disease? Something we don't expect?)

As usual, the difference I have with much of the doomer community is one of time scale. Long term, or perhaps mid term given AGW worsening -- bad things will happen. However, every short term glitch isn't a cause to sound the sirens of alarm -- just a reminder that the system has key dependencies.

IMO, as a moderate.


Something like this did just happen. The Arab Spring was related to Russian wheat. It most certainly did not change the whole world. The immediate conditions engendered by the food shortage were not permanent, though they seemed lasting enough for people to do drastic things at the time. The political ramifications have still not been worked out. Doomers latch onto these things as if they were water to sustain the life of doom, but it should be seen that tragedies come and go, for various reasons. They will happen. The reality that things change is enough sometimes to ensure that. Sorting through what's really going on when there are unintended or unforeseen consequences is more interesting to me. That's where you get at the truth of what's been going on in the affected region, usually for as long as anyone can remember. These events simply bring what has been going on to light. They make it important to deal with those things, like addressing injustice or lack of political participation.
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby M_B_S » Sat 24 Jun 2017, 08:31:26

The Mass will wake up when the bath shower is not possible, the toilet is the garden/ street and when the super market is empty famine and pestilence is rouling the mega citys without water to clear the canals from your shit.

Hallo Alice what are you dreaming now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ1Bq-YMAAQ


Methane Crazy - Half way to 900PPM Permian Carbon Concentration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJfOWfaP6RI
The Brutal Logic of Climate Change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IbyiOoVgnQ


You cannot fool a PEAK OILER because its the Physik stupid

https://phys.org/news/2017-06-france-ho ... e-day.html

In Spain, Agriculture Minister Isabel Garcia Tejerina described a "worrying" drought. The southeast in particular is in urgent need of rain, she said, with water reserves dropping to 50 percent as long as 10 days ago.
Belgium officially entered a heatwave overnight, while Italy has reported temperatures around eight degrees above the seasonal average—up to 39 C in Milan.


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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby dohboi » Sun 25 Jun 2017, 15:21:31

12 billion gallons of water pour into Lake Tahoe amid this week's heat wave

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Lake ... 242256.php

The process of the Sierra Nevada spring snow melt sped up this week as a heat wave brought triple-digit temperatures to parts of the Western United States. A thawing snowpack that's massive after a brutal winter fed rivers and reservoirs with high-flowing runoff. One place that saw a stunning impact from all the runoff is Lake Tahoe. More than 12 billion gallons of water poured into the lake over the past week.
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby M_B_S » Sun 25 Jun 2017, 15:55:30

You choose the wrong thread dohboi

http://www.world-grain.com/articles/new ... A%7D&cck=1


The E.U.’s barley crop forecast has been lowered from 59.5 million tonnes to 57.2 million tonnes, which would be the lowest crop since 2012. The main reason for the downward revision of the E.U.’s crop are the recent heat and drought in Spain, which have significantly reduced yield potential there, COCERAL said. On top, there was a reduction in the French crop where rains had missed the northeastern part of the country so that yield prospects are seen a bit lower there, too. The most affected crop should be spring barley. In the central and eastern parts of the E.U., conditions are mostly good. As a result, the Polish crop forecast has been revised up....
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby sparky » Sun 25 Jun 2017, 17:47:41

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@ M_B_S

the world food situation is a long term (20 years) worry ,

modern aggro-business has succeeded in its primary function of feeding the masses
never has so much food , so cheap , be available in such quantity to so many
for the first time in human history starvation has been held in check

Their efforts are under constant strain and will fail eventually ,
the number of mouths keep increasing ,
the weather will get ugly over some of the major producers , it always does
the inputs needed are non sustainable

The metric for food price is the "end of the year stock "
it is the number of days of consumption in storage ,
if it fall below three weeks the market panic , prices rise , the poor revolt

Rich countries will never starve but the price rise will squeeze their disposable income
after personal safety eating is the second human priority ,
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby pstarr » Sun 25 Jun 2017, 18:15:57

dohboi wrote:12 billion gallons of water pour into Lake Tahoe amid this week's heat wave

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Lake ... 242256.php

The process of the Sierra Nevada spring snow melt sped up this week as a heat wave brought triple-digit temperatures to parts of the Western United States. A thawing snowpack that's massive after a brutal winter fed rivers and reservoirs with high-flowing runoff. One place that saw a stunning impact from all the runoff is Lake Tahoe. More than 12 billion gallons of water poured into the lake over the past week.

Yes! Shame on you :x That was a happy post, not permitted in environment threads. The environment has gone to rack and ruin, don't ya know?

Cheers :shock: :)
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby M_B_S » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 01:27:24

WHEAT MARKET EXPLODES

SPRING WHEAT UP OVER $2.00 PER BUSHEL IN LAST 35 DAYS.


6/30/2017


There is no doubt that wheat fundamentals have done a dramatic about-face, led by none other than spring wheat. It’s rare that Minneapolis leads the wheat complex, much less the grain complex. But when it does, it’s for a reason and it gets exciting.

For the last few three, years, we’ve seen high-protein spring wheat production decline. Some of that was due to lower plantings as farmers across the prairies made a mass exodus from wheat in general. But too much rain the last couple years produced ample amounts of winter and spring wheat, but little protein. Commercials used carry-over stocks to blend and get by, but this year the supply of hi-pro’s are very tight, with futures and cash premiums soaring higher......
http://www.agriculture.com/markets/anal ... t-explodes
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The wheat corn is burning in the fields in EUROPE USA CHINA ASIA s HEAT WAVE 2017 @ 410ppm CO2

Logical market steps are very likely to say it with british understatement

I prefer MAD MAX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MonFNCgK4WE

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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby M_B_S » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 13:36:43

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07 ... cts-olive/

Britain's favourite imports under threat as Spanish heatwave impacts olive groves and vineyards

Soaring temperatures and rainfall less than half the historic average have wrought devastation across Spain's agricultural industry, with farmers speaking of the worst year they have seen for decades.

In some regions, this year’s grain harvests - slashed by half nationwide from 2016 - have already been declared a “natural disaster”.
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Question what is the logical outcome of a global heat wave?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsT2HS1GZQk

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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby dohboi » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 14:25:28

http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/

Those are major wheat producing areas now under severe drought in the Dakotas and Montana.
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby dolanbaker » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 14:37:16

A repeat of the 1930s dust bowl perhaps?
Ronald Coase, Nobel Economic Sciences, said in 1991 “If we torture the data long enough, it will confess.”
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby dohboi » Sun 02 Jul 2017, 18:26:25

Ultimately, like within a decade or two, that and worse will be the permanent condition of the plains, as it was earlier in the Holocene when last global temps were about this high. I keep an eye on the Sand Hills of western Nebraska. When those destabilize, all hell's gonna break loose in the Western Prairie and beyond.
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby M_B_S » Wed 05 Jul 2017, 06:32:29

http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-0 ... mp/8676424

The critically dry conditions across southern Australia and a forecast drop in wheat supply have caused grain prices to surge.

Grains trader and AWB Pools manager Charlie Brown said the price of wheat had risen by up to 20 per cent in recent weeks.

But Mr Brown said he was not sure if the price rise was sustainable.

"It's been a big move and almost an unprecedented move in such a short period of time to have markets rally so strongly," he said.
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Jaja 410 ppm CO2 will "cost" a lot of wheat/corn.......
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby M_B_S » Thu 06 Jul 2017, 04:46:00

The storm is coming!

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Drought and shrinking acreage across the High Plains has driven prices up by 52 percent this year. Much of Montana and the Dakotas were in moderate to extreme droughts as of June 27, and the area for all varieties of wheat planted for 2017 is the smallest on record since data starts in 1919, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Egypt, the world’s top buyer, was said to have bought 410,000 metric tons in a tender on Wednesday with cargoes from Russia and Romania, shunning U.S. supplies.

“U.S. wheat is pricing itself out of the world market,” Arlan Suderman, chief commodities economist at INTL FCStone in Kansas City, Missouri, said in a telephone interview. Farmers are collecting better-quality winter wheat than expected, reducing high-protein grade shortfall concerns, he said.....
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Re: 2017 Dramatic miss harvest in West Europe expected

Unread postby dohboi » Thu 06 Jul 2017, 13:56:12

Severe drought continues to spread through more and more of North Dakota and Montana:

http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/MapsAndDa ... rison.aspx
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