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Zardoz Expert


Joined: Dec 02, 2005 Posts: 6662 Location: Oil-addicted Southern Californucopia
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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Okay, Global Warming denialist trolls, what crap are you going to spout about this?
Experts surprised that cold hasn't frozen trend, now expect quicker demise
| Quote: | New satellite images show that an Antarctic ice shelf continues to disintegrate — and even more surprising is that it's happening during the Southern Hemisphere's winter.
Experts warned last March, at the end of the Antarctic summer, that the Wilkins Ice Shelf was disintegrating more quickly, but they expected that the winter cold would put the trend in a temporary deep freeze.
At 6,000 square miles in size, Wilkins "is the most recent in a long, and growing, list of ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula that are responding to the rapid warming that has occurred in this area over the last 50 years," David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey said in a statement released by the European Space Agency as it revealed the satellite images late Thursday.
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Memo to the GW denialist industry: Go f**k yourselves. _________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen |
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DoomWarrior Heavy Crude


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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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| Zardoz wrote: |
Memo to the GW denialist industry: Go f**k yourselves. |
Here! Here!
I'll cosign that memo ........ |
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Forney2008 Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 16, 2008 Posts: 121 Location: Western PA, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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Right on Zardoz!! I believe the reason the AGW crowd has said there is no debate needed is because it is occurring and needs stopped. There are also tipping points, that once reached, can lead to a serious, quick acceleration in global temperature rise. Any debate on the subject by denialists ( paid for by Exxon) only will add the to future cost and misery that we humans will endure. If human beings chose to have a serious debate before trying any new endeavor, we would still be in the stone age today with few accomplishments. |
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Ludi NeoMaster


Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 13064 Location: naive idiot fantasy world
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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| Forney2008 wrote: | | we would still be in the stone age today with few accomplishments. |
...and not having to worry about global warming....
"accomplishments" maybe overrated. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow." - jboogy |
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Cochise Tar Sands


Joined: Jun 13, 2008 Posts: 53 Location: LA
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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@Ludi
i don't think "accomplishments" is overrated.
Aren't you able that a dentist can fix a tooth using anesthetic created by some biochemist? I am!
Unfortunately, the same biochemist can easily create a powerful poison as well.
The same can be said for virtually any branch of science.
It is not the 'accomplishment' in itself that get us in trouble, it is how we decide to use it.
Ciao. |
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essex Heavy Crude


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Armageddon Fusion


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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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| Zardoz wrote: | Okay, Global Warming denialist trolls, what crap are you going to spout about this?
Experts surprised that cold hasn't frozen trend, now expect quicker demise
| Quote: | New satellite images show that an Antarctic ice shelf continues to disintegrate — and even more surprising is that it's happening during the Southern Hemisphere's winter.
Experts warned last March, at the end of the Antarctic summer, that the Wilkins Ice Shelf was disintegrating more quickly, but they expected that the winter cold would put the trend in a temporary deep freeze.
At 6,000 square miles in size, Wilkins "is the most recent in a long, and growing, list of ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula that are responding to the rapid warming that has occurred in this area over the last 50 years," David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey said in a statement released by the European Space Agency as it revealed the satellite images late Thursday.
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Memo to the GW denialist industry: Go f**k yourselves. |
co-sign |
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dissident Heavy Crude


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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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| The squirming denialists now are finding volcanoes under every piece of ice that is melting. They see them in the Arctic, they see them in the Antarctic and they see them where the sun don't shine. You blathering twits can't even be bothered to establish how long the volcanoes have been active and how much of their heat reaches the ice sheets in question. In the case of the Arctic it is the warm water currents from outside the Arctic basin that are the big story and not the volcanoes that have been there for millenia and never managed to destroy the ice sheet in the past. Similarly in the Antarctic, the warming oceans are *the* story. |
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Zardoz Expert


Joined: Dec 02, 2005 Posts: 6662 Location: Oil-addicted Southern Californucopia
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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| Zardoz wrote: | | Okay, Global Warming denialist trolls, what crap are you going to spout about this? |
Wait for it. Wait... Wait...
And there it is!
| essex wrote: | | Surprise! There’s an active volcano under Antarctic ice. |
_________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen |
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eastbay Moderator


Joined: Dec 18, 2004 Posts: 4870 Location: One Mile From the Columbia River
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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| Zardoz wrote: | | Zardoz wrote: | | Okay, Global Warming denialist trolls, what crap are you going to spout about this? |
Wait for it. Wait... Wait...
And there it is!
| essex wrote: | | Surprise! There’s an active volcano under Antarctic ice. |
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That only took 3 hours and 21 minutes. Not bad. _________________ Got Dharma?
Everything is Impermanent. Shakyamuni Buddha |
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americandream Fission

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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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I suspect that as the gross mismanagement of this planet in resource wastage and climate destruction due to the peddling of unsustainable syetems becomes evident, these specimens shall have to be removed from our midst. _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate! |
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Rogozhin Heavy Crude


Joined: Dec 26, 2006 Posts: 286 Location: Eastern Washington
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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That's great, there's probably vast amounts of oil that we can now extract since the ice will be gone. _________________ "Those who long for exaltation look upwards, but I look downward for I am the exalted."
Thus Spake Zarathustra |
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Lore Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Aug 26, 2005 Posts: 1008 Location: "Mad as Hell !"
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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| Rogozhin wrote: | | That's great, there's probably vast amounts of oil that we can now extract since the ice will be gone. |
By the time we can do this it may be pretty difficult with only a row boat, a snorkel and some reused plastic pipe.
As far as the denialist's claims of volcanos everywhere, all of a sudden that are melting the polar caps, they never bother to do the math. For instance, it would take nearly a thousand highly active volcanos to raise temperatures enough in the Arctic sea to just 1C, and that ignores surface cooling, in/out water flows and time rates.
Next, it will be alien abduction of our ice pack. _________________ The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
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Cochise Tar Sands


Joined: Jun 13, 2008 Posts: 53 Location: LA
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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Next, it will be alien abduction of our ice pack. |
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Madpaddy Expert


Joined: Jun 25, 2004 Posts: 2126
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: Re: Antarctic ice shelf breaking up in dead of winter |
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Lore wrote,
| Quote: | | Next, it will be alien abduction of our ice pack. |
I can't resist.
http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_1163.shtml
| Quote: | UFO FOUND IN ICEBERG
Alien crew is missing & still at large, warn scientists! The captain of a ship rammed an iceberg in the frigid waters of the Greenland Sea -- and found a perfectly preserved UFO frozen inside. What's more, the alien crew is missing and may still be at large!
Scientists from all over the world have been summoned to an undisclosed location near the seacoast town of Scoresbysund, Greenland, to investigate the intact alien craft. "The design and technology of this space capsule is years ahead of anything yet developed on Earth," says Dr. Gerd Stuber of Bern, Switzerland. "It's definitely from another planet.
The discovery occurred above the Arctic Circle between Norway and Greenland when a seismic exploration ship struck a huge floating iceberg at about three p.m. on May 24. Damage to the ship was minor but the collision knocked a large piece out of the iceberg, exposing part of a strange metal object.
"My staff and I have examined every inch of it and all the evidence indicates that the craft was manned by a crew of five beings who apparently lost control and crashed. However, we can find no trace of them."
When the crew chipped away enough ice to get a good look at it, that metallic "something" turned out to be the hull of a UFO.
No one is able to pinpoint exactly when the spaceship crash-landed on Earth, or how it became encased in an iceberg, and experts differ widely about the fate of the missing aliens. and even when they might have crashed, some speculate that the great black out that hit the eastern sea board was caused by a ufo crash. "They're dead," says Dr. Juan Cordoba, noted Spanish biologist and member of Dr. Stuber's staff. "Even if they survived the crash, there's no way they could stay alive in New york with out being spotted." |
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