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How much oil do we REALLY have left?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: How much oil do we REALLY have left? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

MonteQuest wrote:


Your inability to comprehend the reality of ecological overshoot and die-off causes you to fail to grasp what I write.


Maybe you can explain it, again, in very simple language. Who knows, it might help someone understand what you're actually saying.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: How much oil do we REALLY have left? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

PraiseDoom wrote:

Monte Speaks!


Here are a few more opinions presented by MQ about this subject.

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic33890-0-asc-675.html

MonteQuest wrote:
This is why carrying capacity must veto all concerns, ethical or otherwise.

Fear of a self-defeating strategy must not veto carring capacity.

Ok, carrying capacity must veto reasoned conclusions.

Other than a couple of members, this philosophical discussion was way beyond most people's ability to grasp or even discuss.

It is obvious they don't get it. [...]It's their thinking paradigm; the way they perceive and reason is rooted in a "full belly" Mechanical world view. They froth and lash out at the messenger...like silencing me changes the reality. I have to be discredited. Otherwise, their whole world view crashes.[...]Yes, I find that quite amazing. They won't even go so far as to examine that incongruity in their thinking. [...]And how can you use those incoherent ethics to refute the criticism of those same ethics?

I can see my statement went right over your head. What do you think I meant when I wrote that?

I just don't think you have thought this through and it makes you say things that are hubristic and in denial of reality,..you just don't know it.

Your mindset is beyond changing.

It makes them think to see absurd positions debunked.

Oh, to the contrary. I Have thought out my position so far, you don't seem to able to comprehend it.

Thinking, Shannymara, thinking.

I have never advocated murder, but what if it is required?


Some discussion of his arguments can be found here:

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic34134-0-asc-0.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Re: How much oil do we REALLY have left? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

btu2012 wrote:
PraiseDoom wrote:

Monte Speaks!


Here are a few more opinions presented by MQ about this subject.

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic33890-0-asc-675.html

MonteQuest wrote:
This is why carrying capacity must veto all concerns, ethical or otherwise.

Fear of a self-defeating strategy must not veto carring capacity.

Ok, carrying capacity must veto reasoned conclusions.

Other than a couple of members, this philosophical discussion was way beyond most people's ability to grasp or even discuss.

It is obvious they don't get it. [...]It's their thinking paradigm; the way they perceive and reason is rooted in a "full belly" Mechanical world view. They froth and lash out at the messenger...like silencing me changes the reality. I have to be discredited. Otherwise, their whole world view crashes.[...]Yes, I find that quite amazing. They won't even go so far as to examine that incongruity in their thinking. [...]And how can you use those incoherent ethics to refute the criticism of those same ethics?

I can see my statement went right over your head. What do you think I meant when I wrote that?

I just don't think you have thought this through and it makes you say things that are hubristic and in denial of reality,..you just don't know it.

Your mindset is beyond changing.

It makes them think to see absurd positions debunked.

Oh, to the contrary. I Have thought out my position so far, you don't seem to able to comprehend it.

Thinking, Shannymara, thinking.

I have never advocated murder, but what if it is required?


Some discussion of his arguments can be found here:

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic34134-0-asc-0.html


"They froth and lash out at the messenger...like silencing me changes the reality."

Denial rules, it seems.
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