"Life After the Oil Crash" Matt Savinar

jesus_of_suburbia · Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:20 pm Post subject:

I find Matt, his personality, and some his lap dogs on this forum who practically hero worship him to be rather repellent. He sometimes addresses bogus cricticism like a thirteen-year-old when he should be professional enough to let it slide. I also hate it when he acts if he is the funniest motherf-er to ever walk the face of the earth.

That being said, I do appreciate the fact that he is spreading the word on peak oil and not sparing some of the ugly details. I think the people who attack him for a lack of credentials in energy, environmental studies, thermodynamics etc. need to realize that he gets his information from the people who have credentials in energy, environmental studies, thermodynamics etc. I will also give him props for getting his material on the floor of the House.

I haven't looked into the 9/11 stuff to make a clear judgement. So, I suppose anything is possible.

Is that fair enough for you? You &*#%$!*bag.
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Jdelagado · Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject:

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OilyMon · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:50 am Post subject:

I first heard about Peak Oil on Coast-2-Coast AM, when Matt Savinar was on the show. I read the book in one day at work the next day (the 186 page version) while it was available for free leading up to the US election last November. Thank you for that Matt, I haven't and will not purchase a copy, but have directed people towards the website for information. Since then, I have begun to educate myself about the realities of the situation because, being naturally skeptical, I did not take the book at face value. The book did for me what I believe it was intended to do: introduce the subject of peak oil. Since then, I've learned the other names of the respected scientists, and others that have been leading the peak oil charge for quite some time. I think Matt (you need a new name, or at least call yourself Matthew - it sounds more professional!) had an advantage over the others and that was he has no respected scientific carreer to speak of. The experts all need to worry about thier reputation, and so temper their responses so that they aren't attacked and ostracized from the scientific community. Matt had the advantage of being a respectable source - he holds a law degree and so has demonstrated some degree of intelligence - and being on the outside of the issue. From this perspective, Matt was able to disect the issues accurately, and I believe with an enormous unbalanced pessimism.

That being said - I think the worst case scenario (after my own limited research) is likely, and that the issue is bigger than just peak oil, although global events leading up to the ceassation of our moden industrial world will invariably lie in the peak's shadow.

Thanks again Matt, for your generosity - if I ever run into you post peak I promise I won't kill you.

saginawstrongblockdilemma · Coal Joined: Aug 17, 2005 Posts: 1

I very much regret asking my girlfriend to read Matt Savinars webpage. I am a Californian agnostic- peak oil was built into me. Colin Campbell reaffirmed my understanding of oil. He is educated, intelligent, an expert in his field, and in my estimation a brave man. I accept his data, and his conclusions. As for Matt Savinar...
Peak oil, that's just empirical data. The FUTURE, however, was, is and will forever be unscrutable. You couldn't get Colin Campbell into the business of predicting the future with a cattleprod. The man is a scientist. The blessing/curse of politics is that no good political decision ever escapes being undone by a later group of politicians. If democrats weren't so f@ck&*g inept, things would be at least a little different today. But even red-staters are capable of getting fed up with a diminishing quality of life, and things change- for now. The end of oil, certainly. Mob rule, mass extinction, maybe. Don't let dire predictions, overide, your only natural advantage. Use your critical thinking, you drooling, spindly, pitiful ape! Unless of course they're giving away laptops for fifty bucks!

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Predicting what will be of the world after peak oil is very sticky business, but one thing I'm willing to bet: the transition will be smooth or sharp.

Meaning, either the world switches to a rational use of energy and carries on with moderate inconvenience, OR major collapse and global wars arise.

I believe we (mankind) now have the technology to operate the smooth transition, but since we are still as egoistic as 1 million year ago, I'm not so sure that will be the path we'll tread.