Don’t worry, just a little bump - $70 is just around the corner. Short traders just keep making those margin calls, mortgage the house if you have to. Fortunes await you! PO is for pansies and doomers. At $70 short some more ..... it is going back to $22 .... the world is awash with oil ........ reality has nothing to do with it, its all in those charts!!!!!!!!!!
Joined: Nov 11, 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Portland metro, Oregon
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
threadbear wrote:
FreedomSlave wrote:
threadbear wrote:
FreedomSlave wrote:
Or try to "convert" us away from rational thought and fact-based opinions stemming from literally years of research and analysis.
Spoken with the authoritative wisdom of the sage with how many posts? 49?
Kiss it, threadbear.
I've read all the books, been down the rabbit hole, and got the souvenirs to boot.
Oh, and don't forget "had to trudge through blizzards in my bare feet to get to Peak Oil forums If you've read all the books, got the souvenirs, etc...etc... perhaps you should be exposed to alternative points of view. Are alternative points of view synonymous with alternative energy; not to be mentioned in mature company? Should people prepare themselves for a darned good thrashing for entertaining the idea that there actually might be hope over the horizon?
Trolls are not hope on any horizon, they are trolls. In the future, you should work on your reading comprehension skills and you might be able to discern the actual point of what is written instead of going pissy about a suggestion.
Your condescending attitude is beneath you...or maybe it's that you're starting to freak out as the possibility of the dark things spoken about on this forum start hitting home with fervor?
Or maybe you're posting drunk?
Or maybe you've just decided to become an asshole?
I've held your posts in fairly high regard in the past, but you're starting to show symptoms of the early stages of "Engdahl-ism". You jumped the gun on me and apparently can't acknowledge it. Fine.
For the rest of you, here's my post from another "noob" thread that spawned my post on this thread:
Quote:
nvrpc wrote: That being the case I hope you all enjoy you $6-$7 a gallon at the pump. Enjoy. The sad part is I have to go down with you, but that's okay I am ready for a depression. Bring it on. yes I am all for presidents like we use to have in this country who signed orders to build the highway system, the railroads, hover damn. yeap they were really ditactors weren't they. You people are a joke.
FreedomSlave: If we're such a joke, then be all means, keep surfing for a site that gives you the warm fuzzies.
$6-7/gallon gas will soon be a pleasant memory.
Asswipe.
Do your homework before coming here to insult the many thousands of hours of diligent voluntary efforts by scores of the brightest people humanity has to offer. (bolded here for emphasis)
You obviously have no understanding of politics or economics, much less ecology, biology, physics, or geology. Read a few books, starting with William Catton's "Overshoot", or even Jim Kunstler's "The Long Emergency", so you have some foundation for even touching your keyboard, and then come back to talk...
BTW, this site is not run by the oil companies, so save the evil agenda-type bullshit.
Threadbear, you can coddle trolls if you like. I was merely making a suggestion that might actually help retain legitimate newcomers to this site because I actually believe in the merits of this site, and most of its posters. The more people wake up, the better our chances of dealing with these issues.
btu, apparently that job with CERA didn't pan out, huh? What I said, in that paragraph right above this one...well it sure as hell doesn't apply to you!
Joined: Nov 11, 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Portland metro, Oregon
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
Jack wrote:
FreedomSlave, a word to the wise.
I suggest you cool it on the personal insults.
Example:
FreedomSlave wrote:
Or maybe you're posting drunk?
Or maybe you've just decided to become an asshole?
This thread is starting to look like HOF material. That can be arranged.
...but, but, but...Threadbear started it!
I can laugh about it, but please give credit where it is due.
Do what you will with it. I made my point.
And what was it I said in my first post in this thread? oh yeah...
Quote:
My suggestion to the mods is to move the new noob (as opposed to "newb") threads into the Hall of flames straight away, because that's where they are going to wind up anyway.
I just didn't expect that it would be a mod to light the fire, and not for the type of "flame" that occurred.
Last note - I did have an emoticon there at the end of the quote you used, to indicate I was speaking in jest regarding T-Bears attitude shift, and I thought the use of "Engdahl-ism" would be another give away as to the intended tone. Sorry if it didn't come across that way.
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
Cashmere wrote:
If you are a Peak Oil newb, then please heed the following . . .
Please DO NOT make your first post a "there is no problem, we have plenty of oil, alternatives are available, there's a big oil conspiracy, some guy heard 30 years ago that there's more oil in Alaska than there are moon rocks on the moon, oil is made at the core of the earth so there's a limitless supply, it's speculation that's driving up the price, we just need to drill more, and so on and on and on."
EVERY ONE of those incorrect assertions has been debated extensively on this site.
Well, except that some of those assertions are correct.
But yes, I would agree that newbies should browse around the site a while before posting a new thread. Chances are there's already a thread about it somewhere. Or several threads. _________________ Abundance - what a concept!
Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1195 Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
Aren't there sticky 'must read first' threads at the top of each forum topic? Although I suppose you can make all the sticky threads you like, some people will still just jump in to say their piece without doing their homework. _________________ Kind regards, Katkinkate
"The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops,
but the cultivation and perfection of human beings."
Masanobu Fukuoka
Joined: May 26, 2008 Posts: 24 Location: north texas
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
NEWB here.
I take no offense to the term, as you said, it is what I am.
I have been researching peak oil for about 4 years now and am a firm believer in the theory. What I don't understand is why it is so hard to convince others in my daily encounters. I have heard every reason imaginable for the cause of rising fuel costs except that we might possibly, maybe, be running out just a little bit.
In the last two days I have been told: it is because of those darn Saudi's, or we have hundreds of oil wells capped off right here that are just waiting to be caressed into giving us all we need as soon as our conspiratory u.s government lets us have it, or it's those "greeny enviromentalists that won't let us drill the billions of barrels out of the ground/water in Anwar and off the eastern coasts, and of course the ever popular " it's the greedy oil companies that are just piling up thier fortunes while they stick it to the little people".
I have quit trying to convince people who don't believe. I am just waiting for reality to set in. When the truth is too ugly to bear most people, it seems just bury thier heads and wait for nanny government to give them their bottles.
or just click my profile and click on "find all posts by".
The only thing even remotely resembling a "threat" was this, in response to ridiculous accusations toward Monte:
Quote:
Sounds like you have no fear of making libelous statements. Monte's one of the few people on this site who is not anonymous, so maybe you should be a bit more careful in your ad hominem character attacks.
The quote btu attributed from me was from another thread entirely, used completely out of context here, and I can't even find it using the "search" function. It's inappropriate, manipulative, and disingenuous, at the very least. Folks, this means that btu has been trudging through my old posts to try and find something to slam me with. How pathetic...
btu, you have an opportunity to end this with a simple apology. Do yourself the favor of taking that opportunity, as it is only your credibility that you tarnish with such blatent BS.
Hey TB - I thought you were a mod for some reason. My mistake. Sorry, as the difference mattered - a little bit - in how I thought about responding to you earlier.
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Joined: Jun 13, 2007 Posts: 3321 Location: Minniesotuh
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
FreedomSlave: While I am quite certain you find your posts dreadfully clever, they have yet to demonstrate any real knowledge of Peak Oil, or add anything to the conversation regarding the possible outcomes of a post Peak Oil world.
I am sorry that you have so much time on your hands that you feel it necessary to spend it here attacking other posters.
I would suggest that you either post something relevant to the topic(s) being discussed or find somewhere else to amuse yourself. _________________ "RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto
Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6372 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
I think this is a more appropriate forum for this thread, though it may go to the Hall or to the trash soon. _________________ Make a plan and work it:
Joined: Nov 11, 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Portland metro, Oregon
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
Ferretlover wrote:
FreedomSlave: While I am quite certain you find your posts dreadfully clever, they have yet to demonstrate any real knowledge of Peak Oil, or add anything to the conversation regarding the possible outcomes of a post Peak Oil world.
I am sorry that you have so much time on your hands that you feel it necessary to spend it here attacking other posters.
I would suggest that you either post something relevant to the topic(s) being discussed or find somewhere else to amuse yourself.
If some of y'all want to try to throw me under the bus like you do to Monte on occassion, go for it. Join your cliques.
Ferret, why don't you read some before YOU commence to slamming other posters.
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Attention NEWBS
FreedomSlave wrote:
Ferretlover wrote:
FreedomSlave: While I am quite certain you find your posts dreadfully clever, they have yet to demonstrate any real knowledge of Peak Oil, or add anything to the conversation regarding the possible outcomes of a post Peak Oil world.
I am sorry that you have so much time on your hands that you feel it necessary to spend it here attacking other posters.
I would suggest that you either post something relevant to the topic(s) being discussed or find somewhere else to amuse yourself.
If some of y'all want to try to throw me under the bus like you do to Monte on occassion, go for it. Join your cliques.
Ferret, why don't you read some before YOU commence to slamming other posters.
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If you've read all the books, got the souvenirs, etc...etc... perhaps you should be exposed to alternative points of view. Are alternative points of view synonymous with alternative energy; not to be mentioned in mature company? Should people prepare themselves for a darned good thrashing for entertaining the idea that there actually might be hope over the horizon?
You jumped the gun on me and apparently can't acknowledge it. Fine.
