Christian Perspectives on Peak Oil

zzzpeakoil · Tar Sands Joined: Dec 27, 2007 Posts: 40

If I were a moderator i would have moved your thread from Psychology. Religious sects have nothing to do with psychology, but with psychopathy.

You are totally ridiculous to think that "God" can be of any help to anybody, or even to think it has anything to do with peak oil.

I won't disturb you in your preaching, I don't debate christians, as I am a psycologist and my most interactions with them are in the form of doctor-pacient.

Answer this, if you will : How could possibly a christian survive in a chaotic post-peak-oil world without breaking any of god's laws? Where people are fighting and stealing and killing from each other, how will you survive if you believe that you should turn the other cheek? Your religion is totally anti-life!

clueless

Fishman

zzz
You seem to have missed several articles in the medical literature. Interventional prayer, blinded by the physicians participating in the care did change the outcome, see Southern Medical Journal, and do a little searching.
I didn't argue that God would help anyone in my post, I simply argued that those in a supportive structure will do far better. Surely you know that as a psychologist.
As to surviving terrible times, perhaps Chistians won't live up to their ideals, but unlike other faiths, Christians know they can never live up to expectaions of a perfect God, that' where the term grace come in, not works.

vision-master

NTBKtrader · Intermediate Crude Joined: Oct 19, 2004 Posts: 590

Olaf · Last edited by Olaf on Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:15 pm; edited 1 time in total

Wow, 19 and so omnipotent...

Ok, I'll try very hard to hold back on the sarcasm, but I'm going to wager you haven't seen nearly enough of the world, or experienced nearly enough to be certain of jack diddly doo.

For my part, I like this world, just not the society we've built upon it; and when my time to leave it comes, I hope I die well.

Olaf

P.S. Holy crap I had to delete about 10 things I wrote in this post before I submitted it. I hope that christian faith thing works out for you.

Edit: After reading your edited initial post, it occurs to me that you aren't necessarily saying you are 19 years old...but I'll leave the comment just the same.
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Gandalf_the_White · Intermediate Crude Joined: Nov 21, 2007 Posts: 511

Gandalf_the_White · Intermediate Crude Joined: Nov 21, 2007 Posts: 511

Gandalf_the_White · Intermediate Crude Joined: Nov 21, 2007 Posts: 511

Jack,

Yes I do believe a Christian has the right to defend themselves but not the obligation.

As for original sin it is an odd thing because this is how Paul explains our need for salvation (clearly the axiom I am using here is that the Bible is a roadmap to a relationship with God, ie it is authoritative.)

'Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned' Romans 5:12

So when we find a person who has never sinned personally, that would be a person not in need of salvation. Acording to the Bible only Jesus lived as a human on this earth without sin.

[NOTE: Some catholics believe Mary was also without sin, but the Bible does not support that conclusion all by itself]
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Ludi

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Ludi