How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: Oil, democracy, and Indonesia.
I will be attending a lecture tomorrow at my university where a political science professor is presenting his work for review to prepare for journal submission. His topic is "Does oil wealth really hinder democracy?". This professor contends that oil wealth may not hinder democracy and uses nations such as Indonesia and the Congo as examples. I know... I'm throwing up this thread because I could not find anything specific when looking up the facts about Indonesia in direct relation to their government and oil that would be worth bringing up to him. I figured I would leave the PO'ers here the oppurtuinty to throw up anything useful that I can look into before I go. Maybe I should grab a white t-shirt and paint in black on both sides "www.peakoil.com", how's that for academics?
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Oil, democracy, and Indonesia.
Not sure what you're asking. I have a friend who lives in Indonesia, if you have specific questions about the political situation, oil prices, etc., I'd be willing to put them to him.
My feeling from what he describes of everyday life is that things are relatively peaceful, life is slower than here, and cars are not a huge fixation as they are in the US.
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Oil, democracy, and Indonesia.
I own stock in a little exploration company with stakes in Indonesia. When they began they thought that when they developed something that they would sell it to the world markets. Now they figure they will sell it to the Indonesian markets. The export land model is hard at work in Indonesia. _________________ "Hope encourages men to take risks; men in a strong position may follow her without ruin, if not without loss. But when they stake all that they have to the last coin (for she is a spendthrift), she reveals her real self in the hour of failure."
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