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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

...and the bees will be here at the end of April.

This year's goal is to not kill the bees. Smile

If anybody is interested, we built two hives for $50 apiece. If all goes well, I should get 50lbs of honey per hive.

Check it out at Back Yard Hive

Does anybody else here have beekeeping experience?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Very interesting...

canis_lupus wrote:
Does anybody else here have beekeeping experience?
A little working with bees a while back. The advice that coming to mind
though is if you are moving them to fields, perhaps in a closed van,
bee sure you're bee suit is zipped up all the way!

That's my advise... Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I had 30 or so hives of bees some years ago, but sold them all when we moved about 19 years ago. I had moved them once before (a hundred mile move to a new home) and I knew that it was going to be a lot of trouble for me to move them again, with all the other things I had to do (like make a house livable), so I sold all the bees and most of the equipment, but I did keep enough stuff for a half-dozen hives. Things have changed a lot in the last 20 years though. Back then, we were worried about the Africanized bees moving up from the south, and now you don't hear much about that, but mites and the loss of bees to unknown causes are the more recent concerns. We were hoping to get back into bees this spring, but it isn't happening, as we have too many irons in the fire as it is.

Good Luck!! and keep us up to date on the bees.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Gotta love bees and other pollinators:



Does anyone know what kind of moth this is?:



Sorry it's a bit out of focus. The lighting wasn't that great and the moth was moving. At first I thought the moth was a hummingbird. It's wingspan was perhaps 7-8 cm or more.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Does anyone know what kind of moth this is?
Looks like a Sphinx Moth. The wing pattern varies, but they get to
that size, hover like hummingbirds and live in your part of the country.



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The Sphinx Moth (family Sphingidae) is also called the Hawk
Moth and the Hummingbird Moth because of its hovering, swift flight
patterns. These stout-bodied moths have long, narrow forewings and
shorter hindwings, with wingspans ranging from 2 to 8 inches. Many
species pollinate flowers such as orchids, petunias and evening
primroses while sucking their nectar with a proboscis (feeding tube)
that exceeds10 inches in some species.

Range
Throughout all the North American desert regions.

http://www.desertusa.com/mag99/jan/papr/sphinx.html
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

That's it!

Thanks steam_cannon. You demonstrate the value of this web site for it's collective knowledge.

Good luck with the beehives C_L. Take some pics please, if you can. I'm glad there's a beekeeper about a mile from here.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

canis_lupus wrote:
...and the bees will be here at the end of April.


Cool,mine should arrive the middle of next week.

canis_lupus wrote:
This year's goal is to not kill the bees. Smile


No comment. Embarassed

canis_lupus wrote:
If anybody is interested, we built two hives for $50 apiece. If all goes well, I should get 50lbs of honey per hive.


Um,don't count your jars until they've hatched,errr, something like that.
canis_lupus wrote:
Check it out at Back Yard Hive


It's a form of a Kenyan top bar hive.

If you're going to use a top bar hive (I built one last year) make sure they aren't building across the bars,if so take steps to correct it as soon as possible.

canis_lupus wrote:
Does anybody else here have beekeeping experience?


Just from last year,they didn't make it through the winter.

A few simple(but important) things I can tell you are-

1)Try to locate them in a sunny spot with the entrance facing east or south.

2)Be absolutely sure when you pick a spot you aren't going to have to move them later.If you do move them you have to follow the rule of three - "no more than three feet or no less than three miles".

3)Keep the hive off the ground.

4)Don't feed them honey unless you know exactly where it came from and are absolutely positive the bees that made it are healthy.Many diseases are spread among colonies via honey.

5)A solution of table sugar(no brown sugar,molasses,pancake syrup,etc.,these will make them sick) and water is the best thing you can feed them,with the exception of pollen substitute.

6)Always feed inside the hive with the opening closed,this will keep bees from other colonies from "robbing" honey from your bees and potentially spreading diseases and/or starving them to death.

7)If your colony has a low population,reduce the size of the entrance to the minimum in order for your bees to be able to defend their hive against other bees.

These are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.

There is a wealth of information here-

http://forum.beemaster.com/
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Does beekeeping seem like it's still something people are doing with relative success? I got the impression from all the bee die-off reports that beekeeping was pretty much finished. No?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

smallpoxgirl wrote:
Does beekeeping seem like it's still something people are doing with relative success? I got the impression from all the bee die-off reports that beekeeping was pretty much finished. No?


So far as I can tell,and this is just coming from people I've chatted with on the net,the people having issues with massive die-offs are the large scale commercial operations that have thousands of hives.Small scale apiaries and hobby beekeepers don't seem to be having any problems with CCD.

Now understand,this is just based on what I've heard over the internet,so you might take it with a grain of salt.

My (first ever) hive from last year didn't make it through the winter,but I don't think CCD had anything to do with it. I started with a small swarm(strike 1) at the end of June(strike 2) and made a few novice mistakes(strike three),they simply weren't able to rebuild their population quick enough to put away enough food for the winter.

While I'm far from being an expert,I've learned quite a bit the past year,so I'm not even close to giving up on these fascinating little bugs. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

That makes me very happy to hear that. I think it would be a really fun thing to get into.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I hope You will get some bees. I heard that there are some problems with bees are dying out, how is it in your area? A colleague of mine has bees and so far it hasn't been any problems here in Sweden that I heard of.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Gotta get land before I can get bees.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

lupus, great link, did you make a hive like in the picture? I really never saw a hive like that. Isn't it a bit difficult to build the hives and do you need a table saw and all this?
the big advantage is that you have a pollinator in your garden.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

smallpoxgirl wrote:
Does beekeeping seem like it's still something people are doing with relative success? I got the impression from all the bee die-off reports that beekeeping was pretty much finished. No?


My local beekeepers tell me 9granted this information is getting a little dated, that they have not experienced CCD, just the "normal" problems. They are all sitting on pins and needles waiting for spring.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Finished building the beehives Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I did beekeeping as hobby when I was 14-16 years old. It was one of the more rewarding things I've been involved with. I was a little flaky at that age but even then I still managed to get some decent amounts of honey from my two hives. Still have the two frame crank extractor that I used. What ultimately ended it for me was a bear. One winter a black bear tore both my hives apart. The destruction was utter and complete, not even two sticks of wood still attached together.

Looking at getting some land in the next year or two. When I do I'm going to resurrect my operation. By then there should be better info on how to deal with the Collapse disorder issue as well.

The main book I read on the subject was Hive Management by Richard Bonney. http://www.amazon.com/Hive-Management-Seasonal-Guide-Beekeepers/dp/0882666371/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212279009&sr=8-1 I remember it being an enjoyable and informative read. Only problem with the book is that it didn't mention bears. Live and learn. Haha.
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