Hoarding is exactly what the government is doing right now by filling the SPR, and frankly it's the best thing that could happen. It drives prices up. High prices encourage demand destruction. They also finance new well development. The hoarded oil gives us a buffer to fall back on once shortages become more prevalent. High prices are what we need in order to adapt to what's coming, and the sooner they happen, the better.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:00 am Post subject: Re: Yet another American (possibly) moving to New Zealand
worrier wrote:
I live in Wellington and it has a really good public transport system. I have a 10 minute walk to train station, 10 minute train ride to the CBD, and I also have a bus alternative if I want it. Wgtn does get more wind that other cities, but that also means no smog. There are lots and lots of wilderness areas very close to the city, you have lots of different places to choose to go, from easy walks or serious weekend tramps. There are a range of beautiful beaches to go to, some actually in Wgtn city, others from 1/2 hour to 1 hours drive away.
This has been a message from the Wellington promotional bureau (slogan: Wellington- it's not really that much windier than other places).
While it's true that welly has some nice beaches, so does Stewart Island. The real measure of a beach is whether you suffer hypothermia after a few minutes of full immersion. Welly's beaches fail this test in mid-summer. I'm sorry worrier but you know this is true. And when TSHTF I'd rather be living in a climate that will grow just about any species you want to name, rather than one that is great for potatoes.
On the bright side, there's still an occasional train service up the north island, so there's still time to head for Auckland while you have the chance...
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:43 am Post subject: Re: Yet another American (possibly) moving to New Zealand
yeahbut wrote:
While it's true that welly has some nice beaches, so does Stewart Island. The real measure of a beach is whether you suffer hypothermia after a few minutes of full immersion. Welly's beaches fail this test in mid-summer. I'm sorry worrier but you know this is true. And when TSHTF I'd rather be living in a climate that will grow just about any species you want to name, rather than one that is great for potatoes.
Won't global warming take care of that? Seems like the best long term location is one a little colder than you'd prefer, with the asumption it's going to go up at least a few degrees in your lifetime.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Yet another American (possibly) moving to New Zealand
NZ benefits greatly from deluded citizens of foreign nations who think the grass is somehow greener here, the reality is often statistically worse, however post peak oil as we almost certainly now are, NZ is shaping up to be a great place to make a stand. We just need to POers to agree on a location for a community and get started, united we stand etc etc _________________ "I'm here to fight for truth, and justice, and the American way" - Superman
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: Re: Yet another American (possibly) moving to New Zealand
Well mate, I live in Auckland and have seen a reasonable chunk of the world. I have lived all over NZ and all I can say is that it suffers from most of the ills of the western world , only less so. If those "ills" are to include longevity and comfort and a pleasant remoteness, then so be it. A good American friend of mine once opined "bah, every country's got a million beautiful vistas" and he's right, so look brightly wherever you are, and remeber, it's pretty but there aren't wild fruit to live on in the forest. If it's a generally secure place you seek then come on over. Geophysicists are actually in quite high demand here , ironically due to oil exploration becoming a serious game here. SOuthern Basin and Taranaki are both humming. People I know in the oil industry are feeling very smug, so there;s big news afoot. Two have put it very bluntly that NZ will be a substantial nett exporter in the near future. Further into the PO conundrum, when the crap does hit the fan (or rather the fan winds down and the crap level creaps up) I suspect we're pretty much ideal for the battern-down period where national/cultural survival will be reliant on low usage/efficient production (of energy) models. Oztralier is also in an enviable position in this respect. Come down here, make friends (very easy), take 5(easier), drink wine(easier still), drive a mint 1960s Merc or Citroen (if you want to be cool ! LOL) and live in Wellington area if you're cafe-culture-chardonnay-socialistist-ic- theorist and outer Auckland if you're a sailer and love beaches.. and don't have to commute to the centre of the city each day. Central Otago is spectacular as well, and well worth a look. Queenstown's the Southern Hemispheres version of Aspen, and you can read that how you like! LOL. Americans are welcome, by and large.... so long as they don't brag or talk loudly. The odd one does and Kiwis just don't go for this , neither with others nor each other. Pretty much more like Canucks than Aussies in that respect.... Infact that analogy applies in many national traits, come to think of it. Cheers Bro . Kia Ora. Kia Kaha. PS the guy who said vast tracts are being opened for development was talking rubbish; the reason land costs so much here is that so little is allowed for development. We treasure our pastoral vicinities to the cities, at personal and parlimentary levels. Try subdividing a farm, or even lifestyle block; it's very dificult, and so it should be.
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