Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 3715 Location: Boston Suburbs
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse
JPL wrote:
Seriously though, this 'fear' of a life without power, factories & technology is one of the tools that the current (Capitalist/Industrial) set-up uses to keep us all in line. Loose the fear and then you start to see the world for what it really is.
People here sometimes are too quick to look at things in ideological absolutes. Even the Amish don't live like cavemen.
Joined: Mar 18, 2006 Posts: 1211 Location: Last outpost of Civilisation
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: The awesome excitement of total collapse
mos6507 wrote:
JPL wrote:
Seriously though, this 'fear' of a life without power, factories & technology is one of the tools that the current (Capitalist/Industrial) set-up uses to keep us all in line. Loose the fear and then you start to see the world for what it really is.
People here sometimes are too quick to look at things in ideological absolutes. Even the Amish don't live like cavemen.
This is not an 'ideological absolute'. It's just the way I think. I don't want us to go back to a caveman society any more than anyone else.
All I'm saying is that there are models that allow us to have a highly civilised, high-population society without 'Industry'.
Post-oil Cuba is one. I'm sure we can create others in the future. Just trying to be positive here, y'know!
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