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killJOY
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Greetings From Idiot America Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This is tangentially related to peak oil in that it's about the tendency of Americans to BELIEVE what they want when it comes to important scientific questions.

Greetings From Idiot America.

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The Gut is the basis for the Great Premises of Idiot America. We hold these truths to be self-evident:
1) Any theory is valid if it sells books, soaks up ratings, or otherwise moves units.
2) Anything can be true if somebody says it on television.
3) Fact is that which enough people believe. Truth is determined by how fervently they believe it.


Anyone who takes peak oil seriously has probably asked him- or herself, "Am I on the irrational side? Am I simply 'believing' in peak oil, or is it the others, those who ignore/dismiss peak oil, who are irrational?'"

I've always placed myself firmly on the side of the skeptics, like author of the above article Charles Pierce, on the side of Dawkins, Shermer, Sam Harris, etc., and hold peak oil in the same esteem as evolution.

So why are these folks so silent on peak oil?

Is it not a simple scientific fact that you can't have infinite growth against a finite resource?

To believe is to grow.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Greetings From Idiot America Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Back in 2006, Bill Nye (PBS, Science Guy) gave a talk in Waco. Read the results.

LINK

(Yes, the original link is expired. Yes, it's April, 2006. Yes, I can't prove it happened).

What the heck. With Waco, it probably DID happen! Cool

Idiot America, truly. Next thing you know, they'll spout nonsense about abiotic oil.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Greetings From Idiot America Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Killjoy, I have a friend whome I've allowed to know my PO ideas/theories...

I just talked with him today...He is convinced "this subprime mess" will all be over with in 6 months...I love this dude but i cant convince him otherwise...

What is a man to do?

I pray for him, his wife, & kids!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Greetings From Idiot America Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

To quote Homer Simpson: " Very Happy Facts are meaningless, they can be used to prove anything"
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Greetings From Idiot America Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

RonMN wrote:
Killjoy, I have a friend whome I've allowed to know my PO ideas/theories...

I just talked with him today...He is convinced "this subprime mess" will all be over with in 6 months...I love this dude but i cant convince him otherwise...

I have a similar friend, when I showed him the other day about how the sub-prime was blowing apart he said "They'll fix it". My response of "yes, with your money" fell on deaf ears.

Save yourselves people, there is no hope for the rest of humanity
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