Fire, avoiding smoke, cooking .........

NTBKtrader · Intermediate Crude Joined: Oct 19, 2004 Posts: 596

Quick question: In a hard crash scenerio in which you would rather hide from people rather then join and build communities, how would you use fire in a way that is conspicuous enough for people not to find you? Is there any way to tame smoke from fires? or any good ideas?

Thanks

swarog · Coal Joined: Nov 17, 2004 Posts: 6

i've read somewhere that having a small fire in a wooded area/forest is fairly inconspicuous with a medium strengh wind

NTBKtrader · Intermediate Crude Joined: Oct 19, 2004 Posts: 596

I meant to say inconspicuous!

thanks for the info btw

Aaron · Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:25 am Post subject:

At night, in a fire pit, it's almost invisible
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stu · Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:10 am Post subject:

Better start preparing now. Smile

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NTBKtrader · Intermediate Crude Joined: Oct 19, 2004 Posts: 596

stu so those fire pits make fire more inconspicuous???

Also, does the type of wood you burn matter a lot?

Codeman · Coal Joined: Aug 14, 2004 Posts: 17

Wood gass, aka producer gas. You can make a wood gassifier from old cans, see http://www.garlington.biz/Ray/WoodGasStove/ . You can even use wood gas in an internal combustion engine.

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The_Virginian · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jun 19, 2004 Posts: 1528

NTBK,

To anwser you querry, if i could find a good group I would, if not, do the best you can on your own.

As for a fire pit, making the smoke rise under a tree w/ branches also hides the smoke durring the day....but, again beware of the smell and practice fire safety, keeping the branches/tinder away from the pit.
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Chocky · Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:11 am Post subject:

I've found that you only need a very small fire to cook food on, and if you burn extremely dry wood there is almost no smoke.

colonel_gungho_merkabia · Coal Joined: Nov 27, 2004 Posts: 1

It's painful seeing poor trees all charred by some Camp-er that used them to light a fire under or nearby to,

how would you like it if it happened to you? You can't run away, because some dum-dum species with no empathy, and no mind that is in harmony with the planet they live on, thinks they can charge thru it and use it as they see fit.

There are ways to cook in cans, or underground (dug-out) and covered-over, that will stop the flames being visible, doubt that much can be done about the smell tho'. Or the smoke, unless the fuel is in some way smokeless.

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Codeman · Coal Joined: Aug 14, 2004 Posts: 17

frankthetank · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:58 pm Post subject:

Not totally related to the topic, but a brother of mine has a pellet stove and I was outside (exhaust comes out of the side of his house) and there was NO smoke whatsoever. I put my hand in the air coming out (hot) for a little bit, took it away and smelled it, nothing. Pellet stoves are very efficient and do use a fan and very dry wood pellets.

I think dry wood is the key...

gg3 · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:35 am Post subject:

I second the remarks about hooking up with a group. Refugees and nomads are prey.

It was said that Native Americans could often smell the smoke from someone's cooking fire *miles* away. No doubt this was a developed skill, and that it was more likely to be useful in areas of low population density where any smoke would stand out from background smells. However it indicates what's possible.

Also never underestimate potential foes with night-vision or other infrared-detection capabilities.

Like I said, strength in numbers.