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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: The Trigger Effect (doomer approved documentary) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ElijahJones wrote:

payback, being wise enough is all you need.

Will anyone else here admit that part of the allure of peak oil and climate change etc. is that it means there is something more? It means we might see something really tremendous? There might be a chance at a different world then the one we now know?



If you considered a massive thermonuclear exchange to be "really tremendous", I guess I'd have to say "yes." It'll sure be a different world although not one I'm looking forward to.

If you're at all happy about the consequences of PO and GW it means you don't understand them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: The Trigger Effect (doomer approved documentary) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ElijahJones wrote:


Perhaps we can learn a few lessons from the folly that lead us to our current state of peril?



As the vast majority of the knowledge of our past and present is stored either electronically or on low quality paper that disintegrates within 30-to-40 years at the longest, our descendants are unlikely to be able to learn much at all about what really led to our current state of peril.

I imagine some of them might be able to piece together some type of narrative based on what they find in trash heaps.

But genes don't read or understand history so even if this pieced together narrative bears some loose resemblance to what happened it's unlikely to improve things much.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: Re: The Trigger Effect (doomer approved documentary) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I just finished watching The Trigger Effect for the 2nd time and the 2nd episode for the first time.

It's better on Youtube, does not freeze up and the volume is normal.

Burke has risen in my estimation about 1000X.

I caught some of this series in the 80s and always have thought of it as being rah-rah horray for technology.

That's not what Burke meant at all. He lays it down in the first episode, technolgy is a trap. Elevators are a trap, modern farms are a trap, subways are trap, modern cities are a trap. He uses the word trap a lot - almost enough.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: The Trigger Effect (doomer approved documentary) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

More James Burke - "connections" and so on - available here on youtube
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: The Trigger Effect (doomer approved documentary) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The whole first season of Connections (10 episodes) is on Demonoid.com
The whole series (3 seasons, 40 episodes in total) is on tv.torrents.ro (free registration required).


I'm viewing s01ep07 now... so far in the first season the medieval technology and lifestyle parts were the most interresting.
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