Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 2584 Location: third from the sun
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
Kaj wrote:
However, the skepticism from various peoples (France, Ireland, Britain, Denmark) probably comes from the anti-democratic nature of the EU, also badly in need of reform (and therefore a bigger priority). The Commission needs to be made demonstrably accountable: then maybe they will get more enthusiasm from the reluctant publics.
That is one factor. It seems that a larger factor in euro- skepticism is fear of immigrants, and plain old chauvinism.
Old habits die hard. _________________ only the paranoid survive
Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 2584 Location: third from the sun
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
EnergyUnlimited wrote:
Yep, It will be wonderful world, driven by Romanian machinery, secured by German police who enforce Turkish human rights standards. It will be ruled by Greek politicians implementing Algerian justice system and Italian currency, perhaps with Swiss precision.
It will draw its energy from British oil fields, it will rely on Spanish food and it will enjoy Ukrainian Social Security service. Dutch brothels will provide all the entertainment with French prostitutes serving European MP-s and Eastern European ones - all remaining folk.
You forgot to mention that everyone will dine on the famous Polish Pickles.
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
Did you know that we have e-voting here? I have absolutely no illusions about being able to vote them out.
There are already signs of goverment members having personality disorders from endless brainwashing and whitewashing their lies. Hope nature steps in and cuts them open.
Open protests, maybe...
Divide et impera...
Vandals...
We shall see.
Fredrik wrote:
A government can rob their people of a national resource for only so long, before it gets overthrown as the situation and its consequences becomes too obvious to everybody.
I wish you Southern cousins hea onn teie voitluse.
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
btu2012 wrote:
EnergyUnlimited wrote:
Yep, It will be wonderful world, driven by Romanian machinery, secured by German police who enforce Turkish human rights standards. It will be ruled by Greek politicians implementing Algerian justice system and Italian currency, perhaps with Swiss precision.
It will draw its energy from British oil fields, it will rely on Spanish food and it will enjoy Ukrainian Social Security service. Dutch brothels will provide all the entertainment with French prostitutes serving European MP-s and Eastern European ones - all remaining folk.
You forgot to mention that everyone will dine on the famous Polish Pickles.
Rather: but at least we'll remove taxes from Polish vodka to forget what we have done.
errorist: It's sad to read about preparing to deforestation.
It's more sad that everybody now labels their opposition as pro-russian. This is utterly stupid but very effective. _________________ The poor complain; they always do,
But that's just idle chatter.
Our system brings rewards to all,
At least to all who matter.
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
Future of the EU - What does the EU stand for ?
Everything's Under our control.
I think (hope) not.
The Frogs, Hun, Spics, Dago's & Wops can go to hell.
The EU started as the common market, a good idea, removing barriers to trade, etc. Its mutated ever since towards a single superstate, controlled by an elite of Franco-Germans. It wants complete control over everything & everybody. You should see the stupid directives that come out Brussels.
I could rant on for ever, but whatever the official UK government line is, the average Brit wants out - grand style. Alliance with America ?, Yes thats OK with me. Been to USA several times, Yanks fine by me, if a little "overboard" at times.
Frogs, Very nice country, food, & people sometimes OK, especially in rural areas. Its just an English / French thing, Waterloo & all that - a bit of cross chanel rivalry. When we get our heads together we can do good things, Concorde, Eurotunnel.
Hun - Again nice country, best beer in world, people OK BUT their is an edge to them, something in their psyche, cant put it in words, but if they had the wherewithall they would do it all again.
(yes, so would we - without the gaschambers).
Spics - How ever did they get an Armada together !!
Dago / Wop's - Well they make the most beautiful cars in the world, but they dont start when its raining !!
Well, that's the average Englishmans view of Europe / Europeans.
We English may no longer rule the waves, but as far as the EU is concerned we intend to waive the rules!!!.
Gasmon _________________ Constantus excrementia et level variatum
Were allways in the sh|t, its only the depth that varies
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
GASMON wrote:
Future of the EU - What does the EU stand for ?
Everything's Under our control.
I think (hope) not.
The Frogs, Hun, Spics, Dago's & Wops can go to hell..............
.....................
Well, that's the average Englishmans view of Europe / Europeans.
We English may no longer rule the waves, but as far as the EU is concerned we intend to waive the rules!!!.
Gasmon
Your racist attitude demeans this forum, whether you think you are joking or not. Maybe you can find an "English only" forum to vent your opinions. This forum is international and we come from all backgrounds, these type of "rants' certainly would put me off being a member here. I would hope for your compatriates sake, that your views are not "typical" or "average" and if they are, I suggest you all stay on that angry damp little overcrowded Island.
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
TAIZY: If it puts you off, then just stay away. No one is making you stay, or read this, twit. Unless you have a desire to read insulting stuff, because of your................................ _________________ HOLDING THE CENTER
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
in Congress July 4th , 1776
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
What else need be said. _________________ HOLDING THE CENTER
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
Bas wrote:
please get back on topic, and with some substance too.
Apologies to all, just venting gas. We all need to do it now & then.
Europe (EU) is a very emotive subject. Raises the blood temp & pressure.
Back to topic.
After Thursdays NO vote by Ireland, the ball is back in the Brussels court.
I find it hard to believe that not long ago both the French & Dutch voted NO, the "treaty" was "re-written", presented, & accepted by the UK & others, WITHOUT referal to the people.
Ireland has had the courage to give the vote, and the result is NO
I fear (and beleive) this will be overturned somehow. TPTB WANT this treaty in, and by hook or by crook they will get it.
If (When) this treaty comes into force, and we have a European President, GOD HELP US ALL.
Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 2584 Location: third from the sun
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
Gasmon wrote:
The Frogs, Hun, Spics, Dago's & Wops can go to hell.
Gasmon,
Your interventions in this thread oscillate between sickening chauvinism and British supremacism. You can bet that everyone is in love with you by now.
Let us know when you are done spreading Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
By the way, many in the EU would be quite happy if the UK went its own way -- since the UK is much more trouble for Europe than its worth. Europe cares much less about Britain than you imagine.
taizy> His views are not typical. Not everyone in the UK weeps for the good ole' days of the Empire, though an awful lot of Brits are clueless about the EU. _________________ only the paranoid survive
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
vetusfirma wrote:
TAIZY: If it puts you off, then just stay away. No one is making you stay, or read this, twit. Unless you have a desire to read insulting stuff, because of your................................
Vetus,
this topic is addressed to Europeans, it in the European forum..... I am a European so feel that I am perfectly entitled to my opinion here. The "open forum" was the place that I believe that anything goes.
The language that Gasmon was using is not very condusive to dialogue in my opinion....more suitable to a drunken pub chat in "Little Chisledork upon Twatford".
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:39 am Post subject: Re: Fellow Europeans, what's the future of the EU?
taizy wrote:
The language that Gasmon was using is not very condusive to dialogue in my opinion....more suitable to a drunken pub chat in "Little Chisledork upon Twatford".
Very much like pub chat indeed.
The world's affairs are indeed discussed in English pubs countrywide. As the night progresses, and the beer flows the talk gets more loud & intense. Thats the English way, like it or not. Its our heritage.
BTW my views are a coalition of such discussions, with schoolteachers, company directors, road workers, the pub landlord, who ever, and LONG may it continue.
Off this board, who with / where do YOU discuss such matters !!
Gasmon _________________ Constantus excrementia et level variatum
Were allways in the sh|t, its only the depth that varies
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