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Riddick
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:17 am    Post subject: Texas tackles the real issues Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Good God, are the Texas taxpayers really putting up with this crap?
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:36 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

No way it passes the Senate...
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:39 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I hope you're right, Aaron, but nothing would surprise me with the way things are heading.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: RFID License Plates soon in Texas Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ostensibly, this might serve a useful purpose in determining who has insurance, bench warrants, outstanding traffic tickets, etc. I believe that Texas has other plans in mind, though. With the coming of RFID plates, Texas can toll any road it wants to any time it wants to. It can toll the street you take to work, it can toll major arteries, without the hassle of tollbooth installation & operation, and it can toll public parking lots, et. al.. As much hell as this will raise, I think PO will get here long before the widespread implementation of such a system. So, we'll probably never know...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Voters won't tolerate it. Period. It won't happen. And the anti-tax groups will team up with the privacy advocates on this one, which will be an unstoppable coalition.

And in the unlikely event it does, a simple fender-bender in the right spot (or a smack with a hammer) will render the obscene little device inoperative.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:51 am    Post subject: Don't mess with Texas Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Don't mess with Texas... at least the old ladies.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:42 pm    Post subject: THE State of Texas Thread (merged) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

We're forming a sustainable community as a response to (among other things) Peak Oil.

We have only recently moved to the stage where we are beginning to put the word out about this community in earnest.

We've known about PO for a little over a year and most of our time since that point has been spent learning relevant skills, searching for and purchasing this land, moving from our old apartment to a travel trailer on the land, and having the existing house here renovated for us to live in.

We've held off on working on the site plan until understanding more about the lay of the land, and because of that many basic questions a prospective member would likely want answered can't be answered at this time. Furthermore we're using Earthaven's (community in NC) documents that they've provided us as a starting point to forming our own membership framework. This is also still in development.

Despite this lack of plans/agreements/requirements I'm putting forth this posting, as very soon we'll have these items in place. At the moment I'd like to begin forming a list of people to notify as details do develop and we're able to present a more fleshed out joining process and site plan.

Things I can tell you are:

Vision: to live sustainably in a vibrant, connected, child-centered community in an energy descent era.
Location: 45 minutes Southeast of Austin, TX.
Target population: small (8-12 homesites : 20-40 people)
Land Financing: Bought with cash. No money owed to banks/financiers.
Land Size: 35 acres; 55% rolling meadows, 45% oak/pine woods, 2 small ponds
Former Use: cattle grazing
Decision making structure: consensus
Ownership structure: the land will be owned by an LLC, with all members owning equal shares of the LLC
Housing: tightly clustered small homesites with ultra-long term rent agreement to maximize common spaces and lands and minimize impact on the land and fracturing of the community. The individual members will build shelter on their own parcels.
Religion/Philosophy: no common religion/philosophy is planned for the community, though common eclectic spiritual activity is encouraged. All religions/spiritual directions/philosophical persuasions are encouraged to apply.

Things I can NOT tell you at the moment (because we're currently working them out)
Financial requirements: we need to calculate likely common infrastructure costs, upkeep, etc and determine target membership cap to calculate this. Our intention is to strike a balance between having shared infrastructure (thus saving the community as a whole money and time) and avoiding the joining costs becoming too high because of the shared financial burden of the common infrastructure.
Agreements, joining requirements, site layout, ongoing membership requirements are all NOT yet available, as stated above.

What I AM interested in is hearing from you if you're interested in receiving more information about this community as we're able to provide more information about it. Please PM me if you're interested in receiving this information as it becomes available.

I am not interested in debating whether or not Intentional Communities/Ecovillages are or are not a viable solution to the issues facing us in this thread. I am also not interested in fleshing out the details of our community in this thread at this time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: Central Texas Sustainable Community forming Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Ownership structure: the land will be owned by an LLC, with all members owning equal shares of the LLC


Without a majority partner, you will be governed by committee.

Which will in turn require procedures in place to resolve disagreements.

What happens in a tie?

Absent a strong charismatic leader, or a majority holder... you get rule by committee.

Often a source of difficulty.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Central Texas Sustainable Community forming Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

What's an LLC?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: Central Texas Sustainable Community forming Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hermes! I'm so happy to see this go from dream to reality. I'm definitely interested in more info. I'll message you if you've lost my email. I also know someone else who is very interested in forming community. I will direct her to this thread.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Central Texas Sustainable Community forming Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

What an admirable undertaking! Make sure the lawyer you hire is sympathetic to what you're doing and doesn't regard you as nutcases, or you won't get the best lawyering. Also, screen your potential members VERY carefully. Here in Virginia, the successful Twin Oaks Community (a commune) has a very good method for screening. You might want to check out their website: www.twinoaks.org.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: Central Texas Sustainable Community forming Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Heineken wrote:
What an admirable undertaking! Make sure the lawyer you hire is sympathetic to what you're doing and doesn't regard you as nutcases, or you won't get the best lawyering. Also, screen your potential members VERY carefully. Here in Virginia, the successful Twin Oaks Community (a commune) has a very good method for screening. You might want to check out their website: www.twinoaks.org.

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Televisions are not permitted in the Community.

Kinda harsh don't you think?
I assume it's not the TV per se that's objectionable, rather the inane content found there.
What if I wanna bring a copy of Mien Kampf (sp?) with me?
Or would that be burned?
Can I watch DVDs on my laptop?
What if I wanna bring a camera and broadcast TV shows?
No Bueno?
How about this... I write & produce plays? That ok?
What if my plays are recreations of "The 700 Club"?
Or "Cops"
That banned?
How about if I wanna listen to TV shows? Yes or No?
Slippery slope when you start banning private activities IMO.
"May it harm none... do as you will"
How about suicide? That harms one at least... that banned too?
As you will no doubt discover...
"You cannot legislate intent."
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: Central Texas Sustainable Community forming Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I don't think this thread is about the twinoaks community, Aaron....
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Central Texas Sustainable Community forming Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hermes -
this is to wish you the best of luck with the project and (while not fleshing out details) to urge that participants consider at this primary planning stage just what produce refined to what forms will offer reliable income to the community.
I urge this having seen too many such efforts fail after being abraded by the need for many to commute away to tedious 9-5 jobs to bring in money, while others are slaving over the tedium of weeding the crops.
Also, for a community of even five families, I suspect that a substantially larger land area would be helpful. Might there be some acreage locally that you could extend into as the need arises ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: Central Texas Sustainable Community forming Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Doly wrote:
What's an LLC?


"Limited Liability Corporation"
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