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lotrfan55345 Light Sweet Crude


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master_rb Heavy Crude


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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: steam engines? |
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scam, try to go to the company's web site
http://www.enginion.com
every few weeks we hear about breakthroughs, new engines and stuff, it always turns out to be a scam |
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davep Expert


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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:20 am Post subject: Re: steam engines? |
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Where does it claim it's 90% efficient?
The article says the enginion is a research project of IAV
http://www.iav.de/eng/index.php
They appear to be a serious German engineering firm. _________________ All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become. - Buddha |
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RdSnt Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: Re: steam engines? |
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Whether this particular example may be a scam isn't so important.
That steam and stirling engines should be seriously looked at in relation to Peak Oil is a no brainer. Why? Because they are external combustion engines. _________________ Gravity is not a force, it is a boundary layer.
Everything is coincident.
Love: the state of suspended anticipation.
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davep Expert


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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: steam engines? |
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Agreed, RdSnt.
For anyone not aware of the utility of an external combustion engine, it means you're not necessarily tied to petrol or diesel because any heat source may potentially be used.
A further benefit of the stirling engine is that it is the best at attaining the limits of the carnot (heat) cycle in theory. However, this seems quite difficult in practice as the engines are scaled up in size. _________________ All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become. - Buddha |
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lotrfan55345 Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: steam engines? |
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I read the 90% efficiency off some BBC(?) article that linked to that website.
But that technology seems promising, I never knew external combustion engines were still being researched. |
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RdSnt Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: Re: steam engines? |
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Thanks, appreciate that someone else understands this stuff.
Have you check out Kockum?
http://www.kockums.se/Submarines/submarinesmain.html
They seem to be at the leading edge of practical , high powered stirling engines.
What I find most intreging about the Stirling cycle is that it relies on a heat differential. Any heat differential, it doesn't have to be what we conventional think of. Meaning it doesn't necessarily have to be hot.
| davep wrote: | Agreed, RdSnt.
For anyone not aware of the utility of an external combustion engine, it means you're not necessarily tied to petrol or diesel because any heat source may potentially be used.
A further benefit of the stirling engine is that it is the best at attaining the limits of the carnot (heat) cycle in theory. However, this seems quite difficult in practice as the engines are scaled up in size. |
_________________ Gravity is not a force, it is a boundary layer.
Everything is coincident.
Love: the state of suspended anticipation.
To get any appreciable distance from the Earth in
a sensible amount of time, you must lie. |
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