Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Joined: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 2758 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject:
BabyPeanut, I was not making a pesonal attack against Americans. It was your journalists from the Charleston Gazette, WV. It merely copied their article.
I have contacted our Minister of Energy and here is his response:
Convert your car to electric or biodiesel. Bike/walk more, drive less. Grow as much of your own food as you can, eat less, or buy organic when applicable. Stop buying a whole load of worthless crap made in sweatshops. Repair or even make your own clothes. Look into solar and aeolic systems to generate your own electricity. Stop throwing your hard earned money into this unsustainable infinite growth economy. If you're either a terminal psychotic or some extremist that donesn't mind the possibility of life inprisonment, hit vulnerable parts of oil refinaries with a Barret Light .50 if it comes to it!
Lots of options, passive and agressive, moral or amoral.
As usual, this energy bill is another scam. More corporate welfare to the oil industry, more empty promises and platitudes when it comes to alternative fuels(when we have the technology today, not 20 years from now. It's called the battery electric vehicle. No hydrogen shell game needed.), no provisions to lower car use through better public transit and redesigning our cities around people and rail instead of cars, no provisions to reduce electricity consumption through more efficient appliances and making people pay for the social cost of the gas they burn and electricity they use(this social cost comes out of everyone's pockets in the form of medical bills and personal property damage)...
More of the same bullshit. The oil, coal, nuclear, and auto industries get lots of our tax dollars, don't have to pay hard working Americans compensation from the damages their pollution causes, don't have to change to more sustainable but less profitable forms of energy. The government in turn gets to Fark us up the butt even more by requesting even more taxes.
Just wait for the General Motors bailout. $300 billion in debt. More than $2,000 per household is about to be given to this company to keep it afloat. A lot of people could use that money being taken from them. _________________ The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the old growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder. ~Thomas Jefferson
Joined: Dec 09, 2004 Posts: 493 Location: Around somewhere
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:54 pm Post subject:
I used to think that the government should institute much tougher mileage standards. Now I don't think they should bother, because the consumers will decide that issue. Plus they will do it far faster than Washington could ever hope to. And it will be cold and calculated just like CEO's do.
Joined: Oct 03, 2004 Posts: 564 Location: Washington State
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:30 pm Post subject:
I loved the comment from a lawmaker or lobbist concerning daylight savings time extension. They were concerned about the effect it would have on livestock. I've yet to see an animal that could care about what time was indicated on a clock! _________________ This is where everybody puts profound words written by another...or not so profound words written by themselves
Highlander 2007
Joined: Dec 25, 2004 Posts: 446 Location: Salem, MA
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:58 am Post subject: 2005 Energy Bill
The new energy bill--to the best of my knowledge--encourages opening more nuclear fission plants and increasing ethanol production but does not address other alternative energy sources. pushes for more drilling in alaska. does not address fuel economy standards for consumer vehicles. does not address lowering the amount of oil we import.
is that simplistic understanding at least factually correct? is there nothing in this new energy bill that is positive? is there nothing that even makes plain old common sense? _________________ UNLESS
Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 13158 Location: naive idiot fantasy world
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:15 am Post subject: Re: 2005 Energy Bill
I believe there is a small tax incentive for installing solar power in the home, and an unlimited tax incentive for installing commercial solar. So, again, big breaks for biz, small breaks for the common citizen... _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow." - jboogy
Joined: Dec 25, 2004 Posts: 446 Location: Salem, MA
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:47 am Post subject: Re: 2005 Energy Bill
So if you spend like $30,000 converting your home to solar you can write a nominal percentage of that off on your income taxes? So... if you have a house... (middle class+) and if you have money to spend installing an expensive solar system... (upper middle class+) You might see $150 a year in actual tax savings... _________________ UNLESS
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: RENEWABLE ENERGY BILL OF 2006
Tarry ye not, placeth a bandage on the breech, least the liquified cranial matter escapeth.
Pen letters to ye local congreffman, little good do ye reap. Forchance delay the path to olden times? _________________ With Love to all, and Malice to none.
"A people is conquered not when they lose a war, but when they adopt the song and customs of the enemy"
-Chacham S
Joined: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 2758 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: 2ND UPDATE: Senate Passes Energy Bill
2ND UPDATE: Senate Passes Energy Bill
Quote:
The Senate passed a wide-ranging energy bill late Thursday, setting the stage for the first major rise in automotive fuel- efficiency standards in decades but sparing major and oil gas companies from proposed tax hikes designed to pay for tax incentives to alternative energy producers.
The bill also mandates increased use of ethanol, sets federal penalties for price-gouging and would allow the OPEC oil cartel to be sued under U.S. antitrust laws.
After several days of negotiations, a bipartisan group of senators Thursday agreed to preserve the bill's original call to increase CAFE standards to 35 miles per gallon by 2020, but dropped a requirement that automakers boost mileage an additional 4% a year after 2020.
The tax package included a five-year extension of the clean-energy production tax credit, as well as credits aimed at encouraging development of "clean coal" technology and incentives aimed at encouraging solar, wind and other projects.
nasdaq _________________ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells.
Fatih Birol's motto: leave oil before it leaves us.
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