Home Security

Monk · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 02, 2005 Posts: 150

share your tips on home security! (systems, designs, specific elements of security, etc)

Thanks!

ClubOfRomeII · Heavy Crude Joined: Jul 20, 2006 Posts: 364

Heineken · Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Home Security

Absolutely. Guns and dogs. A dynamite combination. Of course, dogs provide a lot more than just security.

I own a rifle but am currently in the market for a pistol, which I plan to wear holstered whenever I'm moving about on my large place. I've come to realize how vulnerable I am when I'm way back in the woods, far from the house.
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Monk · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 02, 2005 Posts: 150

I don't want this to turn into a gun thread but I was at an Army Surplus store a couple weeks ago and they had a pellet gun (pistol style) that looke liked a real gun... weighed the same as a real gun..... the barrel was spiraled to give the pellets more speed and better accuracy.... the guy said the pellet could easily go through somebody's arm.

I was pretty amazed by that.... and no weapon licence necessary.

Heineken · Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject: Re: Home Security

Which would you rather stake your life, the lives of your loved ones, and your home on, a pellet gun or a real gun? Despite what they told you at the store, there is really no comparison.
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"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
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aflatoxin · Heavy Crude Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Posts: 257

I was always told of the importance of maintaining a secure perimeter. I live in a pretty rough neighborhood, and here is a little rundown about what has worked for me:

The outer perimeter consists of the neighborhood. Get to know who lives around you. Give them beer and smokes. Buy their kids birthday presents. Get their phone numbers and call them if something is up that you don't like.

The second perimeter is the property line. I have an 8 foot tall pyracantha hedge around my house. This stuff is the plant equivalent of razor wire. If I had less water, I would plant cactus. If I lived where it was truly wet, I would have blackberries. All of the gates lock.

From here, comes the third perimeter. I have a really nice alarm system with perimeter intrusion sensors. I also have one german shepard/rottweiler hybrid.

Then comes the next perimeter on the physical exterior of the house. Here the alarm system comes into play again. Plus, there is the shotgun at this point.

Then comes the interior perimeter. Alarm system again, plus guns both in use and stashed in strategic locations.

I could see how other features such as cliffs, deep bodies of water, muddy roads, and deep snow could also be used.

There are any number of booby traps that are easy to deploy. Steel-leadered fish hooks hanging from tree branches at face level. 5' deep holes covered with thin plywood. Small pieces of plywood with several nails pointing up placed in the leaves/grass. I

If you are worried about black helicopters landing in the yard, put telephone poles about 25 feet apart and string cable beween them. Of course, helicopters are only used when needed to raid your stash of tinfoil-lined caps.

bae · Coal Joined: Aug 14, 2006 Posts: 4

Live in a small rural community with little crime, and neighbors you can rely on.

Monk · Heavy Crude Joined: Aug 02, 2005 Posts: 150

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Heineken · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: Re: Home Security

ClubOfRomeII · Heavy Crude Joined: Jul 20, 2006 Posts: 364

Ludi · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Home Security

Living in the country on a small road. No exterior lighting. Washed out driveway. Looking poor compared to neighbors.
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Heineken · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: Home Security

elocs · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Home Security

Just curious, but what exactly do you do when your bullets run out? Other than your odd thug, drug addict, or thief, how do you deal with maybe a small, armed group who wants what you have? Maybe this group has some smart guys with military training or maybe it is one of those militia groups with lots of weapons and ammo of their own. What if they laid seige to your house and when they tired of it they simply set it on fire? Can you save your house from fire because if I am a bad guy, fire is a great weapon --I can burn you out and move on.

What if somebody uses some kind of armored vehicle to penetrate Fortress America? I live just a few miles from a National Guard armory where I imagine some useful stuff could be found. Fortress America does sound impressive, but it would seem to be a better prison than a fort. Is it for keeping the cowboys in or the Indians out? Can you really hold out until the calvary arrives to rescue you? Who is that calvary going to be?

These are just what I would consider to be legitimate questions off the top of my head. I am sure that smarter people could come up with other hard, but straightforward scenerios. The ones I suggest might not be run of the mill, but under the suggested circumstances they would not be unusual. If you are truly going to defend your home by yourself you need consider more than strawman bad guys that can be easily knocked over or shot.

Or would a cooperative enclave or neighborhood be better with a larger pool of skills, tools, and resources and well as more people to watch each others' backs and defend their community?

Heineken · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Home Security

Perhaps the "enclave" would be better. But I don't know of any enclaves around here, and I'm not about to stick my neck out and try to start one---very dangerous, and I'm just not that sort of social animal. Anonymity is safest, especially when you're a man living with a another man like I do.

Enclaves are not necessarily smooth sailing, in any case. Another member could think you were fooling around with his girfriend and shoot you. Etc., etc., etc.

Even if a gun- and dog-based defense strategy fails in the final battle, and the hooligans are about to finish you off, at least the Glock in your hand gives you the means of a quick and painless personal exit. Always save that last round for yourself.
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"Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog

"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother