[Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread)

Cloud9 · Intermediate Crude Joined: Jul 26, 2006 Posts: 956

There is hope. The gun abolition trend in the U.S. reversed after seventy years. Common sense editorials asserting a right to self defense will sow the seeds in the public mind. It takes time. It starts with a letter to the editor.

SoylentGreen · Heavy Crude Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 168

Miltary cartridges and cartridges most popular and common are the way to go.
30-06
270 win
243 win
7mm rem mag ...4 most rifle popular cartridges by US sales in order

7.62X 39 russian AK 47 round
308 win aka 7.62 NATO 30 cal round
12 ga shotgun
9mm luger aka parabelum aka 9x19mm
45 acp aka auto
38 spec. can be shot in 357 mag but not visa versa
22LR rimfire
223 rem aka 5.56 NATO standard M-16/AR-15 round

stay away from the latest NEW chamberings, there are a bunch of them.stick with the time proven chamberings with the most ammo available.

Carlo · Coal Joined: Nov 21, 2004 Posts: 9

Muckingfess

SoylentGreen · Heavy Crude Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 168

there are lotsof great guns out there. Ruger revolvers are like Glock handguns, nearly indistructable. Ruger revolver actions are truly modern,super simple.Drop one in the sand. They can be field strip with the rim of a spent revolver casing and the action unit washed in a stream and reassempled. Try that with a Smith and Wesson. Colt, S& W and Taurus actions are more complicated, fragile and are basically unchanged for a century. Browning Hi-power aka p-35. Walther,Beretta, Zastava, Tangfolio,many,many 1911 clones.
I would be more concerned with obtaining the most common chamberings.
I'll take a lesser brand in 9mm than a Sig chambered in 357 Sig for example.

slesh · Tar Sands Joined: Jul 20, 2008 Posts: 43

Its not a matter of the name of the weapon, its the weapons intended ability.
1911 gov't issue Colt 45 auto
Hollow tips.

Stopping power with one round and is deadly accurate out to 25 yards, just point and shoot.

Has been my side arm since 1989.
I'll swear by it. Smooth action, never jams and halfhammer safety free.

As for rifle/shotgun
Remington 870 express 12 guage
Any 30-06. With medium to long range scope.
I would also throw in a blackpowder model.

Cashmere · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Posts: 1500

Definitely agree that common rounds make sense.

I do own and carry a pistol with an odd chambering - - -

I have the ammo stocked. In 10 years it may be worthless without ammo, so it's a bit of a luxury. I got it because it suited my need for concealment, firepower, and size/weight. Nothing else had the stats I wanted, so I went with it. Of course I have another in a common chambering just in case . . .
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joelcolorado · Intermediate Crude Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 654

You know, a .22 long rifle hollow point will stop a human cold. And you could have 50 blocks of bullets so cheap with 500 bullets each.

I have a 357 S&W too. Shot lots of animals with .22 tho and ppl not near as tough. Shot a wounded deer one time to put it down and it dropped like a rock. Shot placement of course is everything.

Just a thot as to ammo and availability

Arsenal

joelcolorado · Intermediate Crude Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 654

Thats true, I agree with that.

Heineken

Hooray! I just successfully stripped down and cleaned my Taurus PT-92 AF pistol. I've owned this pistol for about a year, but haven't fired it much (maybe 200 rounds) because I wasn't sure if I was going to keep it, because I wasn't sure how to disassemble it, because the manual's illustrations and instructions regarding this process are almost incomprehensible. I was scared I wouldn't be able to put it back together again. Isn't that ridiculous?

I'm no gun expert at all, but it seems to me there's no point owning a gun you can't strip down.

So this evening I got up the gumption and and figured it out (very carefully, repeating the actions over and over in a stepwise fashion), cleaned it, and got back together. Everything "clicked." Whatta feeling.

The funny thing is it's not difficult at all.

Now I know it's a keeper. Next step: Buy small-of-back holster for this model sold by Galco Gunleather (thanks to Spe_Cop and Expat for the great suggestion for holster type).

I hope you gun experts think a Taurus pistol is worth spending $100 on a holster for it. I know it's not a top-of-the-line handgun, but I like the way this model fits my hand, and it does what it's supposed to when I pull the trigger. So far, anyway.
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Wow, that's quite an endorsement, Cudabachi. Thanks!

I don't know whether I'll buy another gun. Along with the Taurus, I have a 25-year-old Winchester 30-30 94 AE rifle in excellent working condition. Some have criticized the action of this rifle as "delicate" (and not as robust as, say, that of the comparable Marlin rifle), but I've never had any problem with it (not that I've shot it a huge amount).

I've always wanted a S&W revolver, so if I buy another gun it might be one of those. Or maybe a better rifle with a scope.

Well, I just ordered the holster. $100+ out the window. From now on when I'm out working on my two country places, I walk armed.
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"Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog

"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother

cudabachi

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