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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Congratulations. Wish I could afford one that nice...of course I suppose if I only had one gun I could.


He still hasn't bought the darn thing! Sad
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

rostov wrote:
Justk a quick question.

Why is there such a huge debate over wooden vs synthetic stocks?


Who knows. Firearm minutia can be debated ad nauseum. I suspect it is purely for personal preference in most cases. For a working firearm, I myself definitely prefer polymer stocks because they suffer abuse much more easily.

Sometimes, stock fit can be critical and custom shaping of the stock will allow for a better fit with the receiver which improves accuracy. M1 Garands are like this. However, some stocks, like McMillan synthetic stocks, are meant to be put on long-range, ultra-accurate bolt action rifles.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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rostov wrote:
Justk a quick question.

Why is there such a huge debate over wooden vs synthetic stocks?


Who knows. Firearm minutia can be debated ad nauseum. I suspect it is purely for personal preference in most cases. For a working firearm, I myself definitely prefer polymer stocks because they suffer abuse much more easily.

Sometimes, stock fit can be critical and custom shaping of the stock will allow for a better fit with the receiver which improves accuracy. M1 Garands are like this. However, some stocks, like McMillan synthetic stocks, are meant to be put on long-range, ultra-accurate bolt action rifles.


Most folks don't shoot up to the capability of the rifle. That being said, wood is for traditionalists and to my eye more pleasing. However wood can change the bedding of the barrel as it swells and shrinks with changes in humidity which can change the point of aim slightly. Synthetic stocks not having that issue are more stable and therefore the rifle will maintain its point of aim better.

If I had to choose a rifle for long term survival/defense it would have a synthetic stock, just like my AK.

Whereas my Sako .243 deer rifle has a gorgeous walnut stock. Not to many dings on it after 30 years up and down mountains still hunting and dozens of deer. (I don't do tree stands, bait, scents, trail cameras or any of the rest of that nonsense.)
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I believe I mentioned that I traded a set of 17" used wheels and tires for this rifle. It arrived today at my local gun shop and I picked it up this afternoon. It's in very good condition and looks like it hasn't been fired very much at all. It came with a hardcase and two clips, the original warranty card that I have mailed off and the unused owners manual.

I'll be taking some time tomorrow to go up to the property and practice shooting.

Hopefully I'll only be using it to shoot small game and targets. Smile

This is the first rifle I've owned so I am excited!




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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Whoops! I meant to post this in the gun thread. Can a mod please move it there?

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Rogozhin wrote:
I believe I mentioned that I traded a set of 17" used wheels and tires for this rilfe. It arrived today at my local gun shop and I picked it up this afternoon. It's in very good condition and looks like it hasn't been fired very much at all. It came with a hardcase and two clips, the original warranty card that I have mailed off and the unused owners manual.

I'll be taking some time tomorrow to go up to the property and practice shooting.

Hopefully I'll only be using it to shoot small game and targets. Smile

This is the first rifle I've owned so I am excited!





Looks just like mine!!

World's most affordable and durable all around general purpose rifle.

Excellent choice!!
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

"Looks just like mine!!

World's most affordable and durable all around general purpose rifle.

Excellent choice!!"



Is it really one of the best?

How do you know if it's a first generation model?

Do you have any shooting tips Rman? :D

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Rogozhin wrote:


Is it really one of the best?

How do you know if it's a first generation model?

Do you have any shooting tips Rman? :D

Thanks

Rogo


I am ex marine - this rifle is nearly identical to what colt sells to our armed focres.

The 223 is one of the most common rounds around.

The parts are easy to come by and the weapon is basically indestructible.

Oh - and did i mention accurate.

Hard sites will drive tacks at 300 yards...this beast is made for accuracy, "One shot one kill".

My advice - that you asked for - don't mess with it. Leave the trigger alone...don't hang ginchy assualt stuff off of it (e.g. light...laser)...just use it as is and she won't fail you.

The kick is hardly noticeable...the barrel solid and good for 10's of thousands of rounds.

A little CLP (lubricant) and this piece will be buried with you.

Congrats!
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If you haven't got a forward assist on the upper receiver, you might wish to consider getting one.

Congratulations on your new weapon.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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I am ex marine - this rifle is nearly identical to what colt sells to our armed focres.

The 223 is one of the most common rounds around.

The parts are easy to come by and the weapon is basically indestructible.

Oh - and did i mention accurate.

Hard sites will drive tacks at 300 yards...this beast is made for accuracy, "One shot one kill".

My advice - that you asked for - don't mess with it. Leave the trigger alone...don't hang ginchy assualt stuff off of it (e.g. light...laser)...just use it as is and she won't fail you.

The kick is hardly noticeable...the barrel solid and good for 10's of thousands of rounds.

A little CLP (lubricant) and this piece will be buried with you.

Congrats!



I picked up some CLP today when I transferred the ownership to me. It is difficult for me to focus with my eyes going bad so quickly, so I was contemplating a new aimpoint sight, and a flash supressor. The barrel is a smaller one than the one that came with the rifle, does this matter? It's a 16"


Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

roccman wrote:

World's most affordable and durable all around general purpose rifle.


I think that's a great rifle, but calling it the most durable is quite an oversight in my opinion. A good FAL or AKM (Bulgarian or Russian) is worlds better in the durability department. Don't make me dig up "ol' dirty".
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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I am ex marine - this rifle is nearly identical to what colt sells to our armed focres.

The 223 is one of the most common rounds around.

The parts are easy to come by and the weapon is basically indestructible.

Oh - and did i mention accurate.

Hard sites will drive tacks at 300 yards...this beast is made for accuracy, "One shot one kill".

My advice - that you asked for - don't mess with it. Leave the trigger alone...don't hang ginchy assualt stuff off of it (e.g. light...laser)...just use it as is and she won't fail you.

The kick is hardly noticeable...the barrel solid and good for 10's of thousands of rounds.

A little CLP (lubricant) and this piece will be buried with you.

Congrats!



I picked up some CLP today when I transferred the ownership to me. It is difficult for me to focus with my eyes going bad so quickly, so I was contemplating a new aimpoint sight, and a flash supressor. The barrel is a smaller one than the one that came with the rifle, does this matter? It's a 16"


Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. Smile


Hmmm- thought they came with the FS...yes - get one.

Also you can pick up a cheap ($25) red dot at wal mart. Thing is when there are no more batteries - hard sights only. Unless you are sniping . hard sights should work fine - try shooting with both eyes opened.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Hmmm- thought they came with the FS...yes - get one.

Also you can pick up a cheap ($25) red dot at wal mart. Thing is when there are no more batteries - hard sights only. Unless you are sniping . hard sights should work fine - try shooting with both eyes opened.


I guess there was one molded into the oringal barrel, but the kid upgraded to a new 16" that doesn't have one. I'll try the shooting with both eyes open. Does the red dot help only at close range?
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Rogozhin wrote:
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Hmmm- thought they came with the FS...yes - get one.

Also you can pick up a cheap ($25) red dot at wal mart. Thing is when there are no more batteries - hard sights only. Unless you are sniping . hard sights should work fine - try shooting with both eyes opened.


I guess there was one molded into the oringal barrel, but the kid upgraded to a new 16" that doesn't have one. I'll try the shooting with both eyes open. Does the red dot help only at close range?


You will need to remove the handle (easy) and fit the red dot on the slide. Yes - long and short range whatever is behind the red dot gets drilled.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: Acquired a Bushmaster XM15-E2S AR-15. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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You will need to remove the handle (easy) and fit the red dot on the slide. Yes - long and short range whatever is behind the red dot gets drilled.


This particular model has the handle molded into the upper. I would have to get a handle mounted dot like this one:


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