If you're depressed now...

hoplite · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 300

in a booming economy, where food is plentiful (mebbe too plentiful, heh), gas is relatively cheap (3.00/a gallon has been absorbed with ease in the US) you have a job and shelter, probobly a family, a family car AND a dog...

you are well and truly f**ked if things were to get, shall we say, UNCOMFORTABLE... get a grip you whiners!! (

diogenes · Tar Sands Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 33

I recognize this is a troll post----but perhaps it makes more sense to be depressed now, when we have such bounty and can see the end of it approaching, than afterwards. Have you ever dreaded something coming later in the day to the point that it ruined everything else?

rogerhb · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: If you're depressed now...

hoplite · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 300

diogenes · Tar Sands Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 33

If you consider your opinion "truth," you owe it to yourself to state it clearly and concisely without resorting to profanity and insults. You could walk around raising the dead and healing the blind, but you'd still look ridiculous if your idea of exhortation and advocacy was insulting everyone. Perhaps the internet does this to people, but saying "get a grip you whiners" is not effective rhetoric.

drew · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: If you're depressed now...

Roger, you or I shouldn't really be posting on this subject due to our incorrect user ID's. 'Diogenes' and 'Hoplite' are both Greek names I do believe. While I know that a hoplite was a Greek soldier, I am not certain about Diogenes, but he might have been a philospher. Please, Diogenes, correct me if I am wrong. I will change my name now to the correct Greek version for this post, 'Andros'. I don't know what you are going to do Roger, since your name doesn't have Greek origins like mine.

Sorry, demos

Andros

drew · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: If you're depressed now...

Hoplite, you need an older avatar, that guy is clearly medieval.

Andros

JoeCoal · Heavy Crude Joined: Feb 02, 2006 Posts: 296

o2ny · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: If you're depressed now...

rogerhb · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: If you're depressed now...

NiKfUrY69 · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: If you're depressed now...

Arkwright · Tar Sands Joined: Jan 01, 2005 Posts: 89 Location: Finland

Speaking personally, I've already trough with depression regarding PeakOil. For majority, it is still there to come.
Once things start to go wrong in large scale, more people will see it, and the work for personal survival starts. My motivation and mood will go up as the communal work begins. My family has a cottage where they used to farm and live just 50 years ago, producing enough food and fish for 7 people. It will become clear that we need to live there again, and I know I will not be there making it there.
We got a better world to build, isnt that motivating Smile

Dukat_Reloaded · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Posts: 1007

Hoplite is a great man. I've never been depressed nor have I been overjoyously happy except when something wonderful happens like meeting a woman or you've accomplished something your proud of. I've been disapointed but it's never led to depression. I spoke to a friend of mine who's admitted he gets depressed for days for no reason. He says it's like there is a dark storm cloud constantly above him and it just zaps out all his energy. I don't believe there will be mass depression because of needed lifestyle changes, but those prone to depression will most likely be effected somewhat.

Doly · Expert Joined: Dec 03, 2004 Posts: 4035

I don't think "affected somewhat" really encompasses the problem...

ubercynicmeister · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: If you're depressed now...

While the original posting was rather crude, it did provide the sharp poke in the midriff which some of those who are coming here seem to need.

Viz: we are still living in an era of massive plenty. While I don't recommend the "eat, drink, spend like fruit-cakes, get drunk and then smash the place up" which is the mantra of many of those I observe in Society today, I certainly am a whole lot less than depressed because I realise we are living in a very-well-off time.

Sure contemplating losing "all that" is unsettling, but: are you really THAT attached to Clueless Consumerism that you will weep to see it's departure? That you will burst into tears at the mere thought that the mindless consumption might end?

In which case, I'd suggest that the language of the original posting was not anywhere nearly strong enough. If you wish for historical precedents for those who are good being a whole lot less than "nice" or "polite", then you need look no further than the various religious texts which are available to all who have an Internet connection.

One Jewish Prophet is recorded as having the following conversation with the local King: (I paraphrase)

King: "Ok, what do my astrologers tell me about the big battle that i know I'm gonna have to fight?"

Astrologers: "You'll ride out, have a big battle and you'll win."

King (who is a little suspicious of his Astrologers): "Ahum and what does the Lord God Of Hosts say?" (directing his remarks to the Jewish prophet).

Jewish Prophet: "You'll ride out, have a big battle and you'll win."

King (surprised): "Uh...are you sure that's what God told you to say?"

Jewish Prophet: "No."

King (very surprised): "OK, what did God tell you was going to happen?"

Jewish Prophet: "You'll ride out, have a big battle and your army will get utterly slaughtered and you'll be taken off, tortured and then finally executed in great pain."

King (after long uncomfortable silence): "Why didn't you say that, originally?"

Jewish Prophet: "Because I want to see you dead."

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No I don't know which Prophet it was, but "being a Jeremiah" has entered the language in terms of being the bearer of unremitting bad news. So much for the "goodness and niceness" version of being good.

Even old Diogenes (the Ancient Greek one) used to give people quite insulting dressing downs - and then expected them to thank him for it afterwards.

One of the best stories I can remember about Diogenes is of him in a Public Square, begging alms from a statue.

An astonished but silent crowd gathered around, until one of the by-standers finally cranked up the courage to ask Diogenes what on Earth was he doing.

Diogenenes replied: "Learning to be disappointed."

Perhaps, given the way the Peak Oil is going to pan out, either good (where we're disappointed because it didn't happen) or bad (where we're disappointed because we've lost our Clueless Consumeristic Society) - perhaps we should all learn to be disappointed?
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