Don’t worry, just a little bump - $70 is just around the corner. Short traders just keep making those margin calls, mortgage the house if you have to. Fortunes await you! PO is for pansies and doomers. At $70 short some more ..... it is going back to $22 .... the world is awash with oil ........ reality has nothing to do with it, its all in those charts!!!!!!!!!!
Joined: Sep 02, 2005 Posts: 113 Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Can't stop thinking about it.
RedJake wrote:
Quote:
I think you should tell us about the obscenities you suffered, perhaps start a new thread about it, I'm contemplating cycling to work (10 miles) and haven't done it 'cause I'm sure I'd either be adused terribly or knocked off my bike.
I also have contemplated cycling to work, about 11 miles, but much of the route would require risking my life three or four times a day, so I now drive it.
People often yell unintelligible comments out the window as they buzz by, last week someone blew a whistle in my ear as they drove by. I have actually not had anything thrown at me, but a friend has. People get really mad, and drive past me about an inch from my handlebar, I guess they don't understand why I don't act like a regular person, and just drive the three blocks to the store. _________________ Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.
-Edward Abbey
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:22 am Post subject: Re: Can't stop thinking about it.
I live in Hamburg where there are good bike paths everywhere and sidwalks for pedestrians. I have ridden a bike to work(7-8 KM each way) for over a decade. I have no car. My bike is now in repairs so I am taking bus and train each day. They are pretty full and cost a couple EURO each way from my neighbourhood to the city centre. I grew up in Alaska and rode my bike to school ten minutes after the snow was gone in April and May but I never hadd a car there either. This was not like LA with not a big road network or anywhere really to get to. Me and my brothers used to walk a lot as we grew up that way. My Dad had a car but rode his bike or walked to work out of stubbornness or as he was not a good driver and very self sufficient type of person(shoveled coal 25 years at power plant in down to minus 40 degrees weather outside). My brother told me he started getting overweight after he got a car and started driving everywhere. Last time I visited home in Alaska me and my wife went up with my brother to a tourist hot springs in the mountains out of town and we walked up a mountainside trail. Hardly anybody else was walking.People came up past on these 4 wheel small vehicles and asked if we wanted a ride. Somehow I felt negative about it all. They did not get it about enjoying peace and quiet and nature. I never learned fishing or anything although I grew up in the middle of nowhere(lack of car to drive there and no family tradition). Now the town is just a bunch of malls and big box stores like anywhere in USA/Canada and shopping by foot nearly impossible as evrything is too far away(walk ten miles in minus weather?) since the smaller stores (regular 60s-70s era safeway type malls) all gone due to huge Walmarts.
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Can't stop thinking about it.
JustinFrankl wrote:
Guybrush wrote:
How can such a civilization collapse? Will it collapse? We don’t know. Nobody knows. But if one looks at the theories regarding Peak Oil such as Jevons Paradox or the Olduvai Cliff, they are truly terrifying to everyone.
If you would like a more upbeat (hopeful) view of civilizational collapse, I recommend "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed" by Jared Diamond. (Emphasis on "choose" added.)
There was a cartoon on the web, two frenchmen talking,
A nuke was accidentally launched by russia in a typical Russian vodka snafu, and america responded, and then china and then england and some guy come to the prime minister of France and informs him
Sir! the bombs have been launched!
"Oi Oi, then we muct launch the nuclear vepons then. Quickly!!"
and the other guy says
"TOh, this is making me SO tired, I wish I could have a nap."
And the Prime minister says Oh, Very well, take a small nap, BUT THEN LAUNCH THE VEPONS!"
-the total nukes between the three countris is 84,000.
-If one country decides to launch they will use absolute maximum force or nothing at all, it would be suicidal to launch 10 or do a limited exchange.
-Wargames in Europe by NATO have always escalated to full blown nuclear exchanges.
-The officail report to the president was"Any limited exchange scenario has always excalated to a full retaliation."
-No president in his right mind will start one on purpose.
-Accidents happen.
If you happen to be moving, and are looking for a nice place or a rental I would look for a place that is never downwind of any city and I would make sure I can always boil water. It should be in the rain shadow to get some rain, and somewhere off the beaten path.
Dark shades for windows if you have a fire after dark. Go to bed with the sun and get up with the sun, don't waste resources.
A place with nice spring water or a handpumped well is a good idea.
Boiling drinking water for 20 minutes is an extreme use of resources, but those who don't do it will probably get very sick.
This is kind of how civilized countries will respond.
Joined: Nov 28, 2004 Posts: 11888 Location: Neither Here Nor There
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Can't stop thinking about it.
RacerJace wrote:
I'm at the point now where I'm getting a bit bored with the whole subject
Being worried and bored at the same time, isn't that a strange place to be? I know what you mean. That's what happened to me after a couple months, which is why I parked myself in the open forum and talk about the 'side issues', movies, education, jokes, mice in my apartment, whatever. It's odd, but it works to relieve the tension of what is in fact a terrifying situation if you really let it sink in.
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Can't stop thinking about it.
I can't buy LATOC and I don't quite know why. Maybe it's because things never seem to work out along the lines of our best or worst case scenrios. There's always a wild card that keeps us from knowing the future with any great degree of accuracy, even when it seems so certain. So there's every reason to be somewhat positive about the future, without annoying people by being chirpily optimistic
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