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Have you cried?
I have. PO is very scary.
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I haven't.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Nope, never cried but sometimes I get really angry and scream at the TV and beat my fists on the walls. Does that count for anything? Scares the hell out of my cats.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

i have cried a few times and have been on the verge of crying a few times, upset by the society i loved and hated, my family and the people i respect and value.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I am just mainly in awe of the political situation in the US and am very preoccupied trying to figure out when peak oil is actually going to be a serious problem, geologically speaking. Perhaps ten or twenty years, without all the manufactured fascistic political crises?

So I don't ever feel like crying, about peak oil. I just get good and steamed and want to strangle someone. Is that so wrong? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

No

But I do find the monster that lives in my closet very scary
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I have cried, because it makes me crazy to go about my daily life, though the very infrastructure of our country is totally unacceptable, the consequences of our behaviour as a society are intolerable. I cry for the millions , perhaps billions, that will never know what it feels like to have eaten enough food to be content, who have no "safe haven", the hundreds of millions of refugees, the many animal species suffering as their habitats shrink. I cry at the violent ignorance I encounter when I attempt to discuss these things with my extended family, and others.

I am pleased that I am living in more sustainable ways more every day. I am glad I can take my electric car ( gizmo made by NEVCO-) for all my transportation needs around the city.
I am glad I can choose to purchase cleaner energy from my power company, for just a little extra ($6-8 per month).

I am glad there are other conscious individuals (ie... YOU) out there trying to take this on with eyes wide open.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I've cried for the forests, and the owls, and the wolves. I've cried for the Bison and the Indians. I've cried at the thought of climate change and the Moab talling pile and the fate of the U'Wa and millions of other indigenous peoples. I've cried about all the nuclear waste at Hanford that will continue to leach into the Columbia for another 1000 years. I've cried about the Anaconda mine that will continue leaching heavy metals into the Clark Fork River for 10,000 years. I've cried looking at satelite photos of the Puget Sound. An obvious cancer of humans eating away at a living planet.

Peak Oil is a little sparkling glimmer of hope in a world that is quickly turning into one big cesspool.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:34 am    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

peak oil a glimmer of hope? when the united states and china get into a nuclear war over oil will it be a glimmer of hope then? what about when the supermarkets are empty and people are killing one another over a box of corn flakes will it be a glimmer of hope then?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:15 am    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

apocolyptica wrote:
when the united states and china get into a nuclear war over oil will it be a glimmer of hope then? what about when the supermarkets are empty and people are killing one another over a box of corn flakes will it be a glimmer of hope then?


1) I will believe the US and China are going into a nuclear war over oil when the first nuke is dropped. Not before. There are plenty of good reasons why that would be an extremely bad idea, and I expect both US and China to be aware of them.

2) I will believe in empty supermarkets when I see them. For the moment, it doesn't look like it's happening, and I bet that filling supermarkets has priority over a lot of other things that will have to go wrong first. By the time supermarkets are empty, I expect that manufacturing corn flakes, for example, won't be a profitable business any more. So I don't think there are chances of people killing one another over a box of corn flakes.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Don't get all like that smallpoxgirl. In away, I think we are doing alot of good. We are re-releasing large stores of carbon back into the atmosphere which have been lost from the environment over the millions of years. If we did not come along, the world would have been starved of carbon which was constantly being deposited underground. We are also enriching the environment by scattering metals across the world which have never seen the light of day, and in my opinion, with more elements in the environment, creatures should beable to evolve much faster as they now have access to elements that were unavilable or in too limited in quantity to evolution ever since the beginning of the earth. I say alot of other planets out there in the universe go through a similar stage. Accually I think the earth was getting pretty bored, now that we've come along, it's having alot of fun, every hurrican is another bout of laughter from the earth.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Do I see light @ the END of the Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I cry almost always at sad places in films but almost never over real life things as I keep up a very cynical front. So no, I do not cry over peak oil (or the Tsunami or Katrina )until that is somebody makes a really moving tragic film about it where the main character loses his child due to a terrible tragedy and breaks down sobbing.

Oddly enough as i visualize this scene in my just invented movie I get a tear in my eyes.

OK now I know how to propagate peak oil to the masses. I must be a genius. Hollywood!! Are syriana and the other oil/mideast flicks any good in this direction? They haven't yet played in Germany so I don't know if I should see them when they do come.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Galactic surfer. This is sort of beside the point, but seeing as we're talking about crying and maintaining a front, I think it's worth mentioning. Movies make me cry, everything in nature that's suffering makes me cry. Parades make me cry, South American street bands playing pan flutes make me cry, earnest street vendors unable to sell their wares make me cry. But when people in my extended family die, not so much. Perhaps it's distance, but I have a feeling that even if I were there, I wouldn't be terribly moved.


I think it may have something to do with the fact that actors schooled in method acting are trained to reach deep inside of themselves and remember something terrible they experienced, relive it and convey the pain openly. Whereas, people who are ACTUALLY suffering are trained from infancy to funnel their suffering through social inhibitions of all sorts. So faced with an actual death or dying, there isn't the same spontaneity of suffering and so the reaction of the witnesses is similarly muted. Also, characters in movies are generally more sympathetic and the musical score is very effective. When I die I'm going to suffer like hell and have people playing pan flutes around my bed. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Threadbear,I can respect your wish if you must have pan flutes at the end. For the sake of humanity, make sure they do not play Macarthur Park on the pan flute. Not that it makes me cry, it makes my stomach grimace in pain and eardrums bleed. I'm not made of stone you know!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Prairie Mule, You nailed it. Harris is pure pain on celluloid. Doesn't he seem like the consummate Brit lounge lizard? Macarthur park--silent scream!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Who's cried? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

No tears yet, I have trouble feeling sorry for the human race. I remember being raised to resist some aspects of human nature, selfishness and ignorance to name a few. While I'm far from perfect, the things I see people do gives me a sinking feeling.

Even when people succeed at applying themselves they do it for the wrong reasons. How many people do you think graduated med school last year only because they want the big bucks. Being a Doctor used to be about being a valued member of your community and having a genuine drive to help people.

Even the hopeful mythology around the "American Dream" has disappeared. Winning the Lotto has become the new american dream. "Something for nothing" used to be a litmus test for vice, corruption and iniquity. Now it's considered the highest form of success.

Our psychology seems to have internalized the idea that things will be good if you just drill in the right spot. The modern attitude seems to be that "Reap what you sow" is for chumps, it wasn't always this way. Creating value doesn't really matter to people these days as long as you are funneling large amounts of money.

I've lost hundreds of good nights sleep worrying about and researching Peak Oil over that past few years. I'll save my tears for those who survive the die-off and have enough courage to stop finger-pointing and learn the lessons of history.
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