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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Scientific Evidence of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yep, that's it alright. We're screwed because of it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

"Our knowledge is a receding mirage in an expanding desert of ignorance."
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

What do lawyers, actors and politicians have in common and why do they often shift between these roles?

In all fairness most people base their opinions on a set of core beliefs and perception (anyone who is really honest about human nature knows this) and they don’t let the facts get in the way, so why should our elected leaders who are interested in keeping in office? That’s why we’re screwed it’s Kunstler’s consensus trance on a world scale.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yep, that was the point of posting the news article: even though it's not directly related to Peak Oil; yet it is. This is why I can't convince anybody...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

As crapattack said in one of his posts. People won't believe until we are in the crap.

But then they will look for scapgoats to blame. The damn environmentalists won't let us drill everywhere or the Arabs are withholding our oil.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

By the same token, those of us convinced by peak oil theory probably do the same thing...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think the conclusion of this very interesting study is that everyone is neutral about Tom Hanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

crapattack wrote:
I think the conclusion of this very interesting study is that everyone is neutral about Tom Hanks.


That's just plain freaky, and I think you may be right - though I may have to do a survey.

However, regarding my PO conviction, I think the theory is probably quite true - I came across PO and became convinced of the reality of it at a time of great stress, and where even the idea of the end of the world was vaguely comforting, even though I it is hard to say that, I know it's true - it meant that if my current endeavours failed, I had bigger problems - that were only marginally something I could influence, as opposed to my own business - which is entirely my responsibility. Problem is now my heart is not in my business as my business is fashion-based, and will go under early on when PO hits.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Part of the problem is that not everyone can be a petroleum engineer, a viral researched, climatologist etc. Consequently when the issue at hand enters one of these domains the person working in the field has a better grasp of the situation and the rest are left trying to figure out whom to believe. Throw in there misinformation and you get a lot of confused people and a few die hearts who a fanatical going against the grain of the majority beliefs.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

wildilocks wrote:
Problem is now my heart is not in my business as my business is fashion-based, and will go under early on when PO hits.


Be creative. Look for ways of transforming it into a business that will flourish when PO hits.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yehhh

How about clothing for people that will ride to work. Or things that work around the fact that people will have LESS Money and will need better quality clothing. Bags to carry groceries not by car but by bike. THINK and innovate.

Look at how the person will need to adjust to the changing environment and where you might be able to offer something.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Scientific Proof of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Doly wrote:
wildilocks wrote:
Problem is now my heart is not in my business as my business is fashion-based, and will go under early on when PO hits.


Be creative. Look for ways of transforming it into a business that will flourish when PO hits.


Oh I have been looking at options. And taking action, like organic and petroleum free products as much as possible - but it still doesn't change the fact that it's a non-essential industry... a major change in focus is needed to be PO robust - I am at this stage more likely to close and relocate and be as self sufficient as possible, as I honestly think that's the way things are probably going to have to go. So it's hard to stay focussed on the now...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Scientific Evidence of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

would it be reasonable to assume the 2 subjects are "addicted" to good news or the lack of severely bad news?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: Scientific Evidence of Why PO Denial Is Widespread ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

May I suggest a book that deals with this rational/emotional tug of war and is a good read?

Deep Survival by Laurence Gonzales. It's in stores now and I learned alot from it.
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