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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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I'm with Chavez on this one. I say ban Halloween from the US too. If I was in charge the list of holidays would shrink by at least two.


I agree. Damn the idea of children having fun!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wish they'd ban it here in Australia. I heard people at work talking about letting their kids go 'trick or treating' and I thought, what the.... who's the hell's encouraging this? Damned cultural imperialism!! Too many Ausy kids think we're part of the US. I've heard there are some people in Australia even think our emergency number is 911 (its 000) and that we have a 'fifth amendment' option if you go to court. Bloody idiots. It's too much American TV. We need to ban TV! Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Wish they'd ban it here in Australia. I heard people at work talking about letting their kids go 'trick or treating' and I thought, what the.... who's the hell's encouraging this? Damned cultural imperialism!! Too many Ausy kids think we're part of the US. I've heard there are some people in Australia even think our emergency number is 911 (its 000) and that we have a 'fifth amendment' option if you go to court. Bloody idiots. It's too much American TV. We need to ban TV! Mad


If it makes you feel any better, the Americans are even more ignorant about Australia.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Any Aussies or US people know the UK emergency no?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

title is a bit suggestive, it doesn't say anywhere he's going to ban it, make it illegal. He just appealed to the people to not celebrate it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Chavez is showing his dictatorship colors.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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eastbay wrote:
I'm with Chavez on this one. I say ban Halloween from the US too. If I was in charge the list of holidays would shrink by at least two.


I agree. Damn the idea of children having fun!


That's right, this is all about attacking the iddle widdle children, isn't it?

Maybe the Venezuelans have their own traditional ways of giving their children fun, Specop. Maybe they can do it without Hershey bars and other U.S. crap.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

All Hallows Day, or the Day of the Dead, is celebrated in South America. Halloween is All Hallows Eve, that is, the day before. So, being purist, Chavez could insist that any celebrations happen on the 1st of November and that they are in South American, rather than North American, style.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Jingoism. Just like "Freedom Fries" were.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ironically, there are lots of wingnuts here in the good ol' USA who want to ban Halloween. It's a pagan holiday, y'know. Good Christians don't believe in ghosts.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

bobbyald wrote:
Any Aussies or US people know the UK emergency no?


Uk is 999
NZ is 111
US is 911
and apparently Oz is 000 (I did not know that!)

Bit of telephony history, original exchanges were mechanical "strowger" (an undertaked, appropriate for a talk about the day of the dead), these used a signalling scheme called "loop-dis[connect]". On UK phones a 1 clicks the line once, 2 does twice,0 ten times, you get the idea. NZ phones went backwards, ie a '0' clicked the line once and '1' clicked ten times. So with some modem diallers you had to enter the number 'reversed'. MF4 (tone-dialling) sorted that one out. The UK number is 999 because if it's dark or you are in a house full of smoke you can find the '9' relatively easily by finding the '0' and going one in.

As I said Strowger was a US undertaker who found that the operators at the exchange were diverting calls to undertakers to his competitors so he devised the mechanical exchange to stop this sleight of hand.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:26 am    Post subject: Halloween backlash brewing in Europe Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Halloween backlash brewing in Europe By WILLIAM J. KOLE

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VIENNA, Austria - It's almost Halloween — and all those ghosts, goblins, tricks and treats are giving Hans Kohler the creeps. So the mayor of Rankweil, a town near the border with Switzerland, has launched a one-man campaign disparaging Halloween as a "bad American habit and urging families to skip it this year.

"It's an American custom that's got nothing to do with our culture," Kohler wrote in letters sent out to households. By midweek, the mayors of eight neighboring villages had thrown their support behind the boycott.

Critics see it as the epitome of crass, U.S.-style commercialism. Clerics and conservatives contend it clashes with the spirit of traditional Nov. 1 All Saints' Day remembrances.

And it's got purists in countries struggling to retain a sense of uniqueness in Europe's ever-enlarging melting pot grimacing like Jack o' Lanterns.


Chavez isn't the only one.full article
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

bobbyald wrote:
Any Aussies or US people know the UK emergency no?


I just learnt today that the UK has 2 emergency numbers. A new one was introduced to help foreigners. Do you know the other one? Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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bobbyald wrote:
Any Aussies or US people know the UK emergency no?


I just learnt today that the UK has 2 emergency numbers. A new one was introduced to help foreigners. Do you know the other one? Razz


I believe it's an answer phone that replies "Go Home". Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I wouldn't blow this out of proportion
He made this statement on one of his marathon weekly broadcasts, not in some official statement. The quote I saw, was no more than a few sentences
Anyway here in England the police handed out special notices you put on your door to officially say you don't want to be trick or treated
Tony Blair would love to kill halloween, and fireworks, drinking, smoking, anything remotely pleasurable. oliver cromwell would have approved, king charles to the rescue!
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