Population Reduction and Rebuttal Thread

anarky321

funny how killing a deer and ripping out its guts and eating its flesh is considered perfectly normal but when the same process is applied to a human its horrible murder....

mos6507

anarky321

yes...lock me up for the heinous crime of free speech, i forgot that's illegal these days
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anarky321

killing at a distance is always easier emotionally; thats a big part of why today we use firearms instead of meelee weapons; plus the larger the distance the more you can offload the blame

if you shoot stab someone with a sword your guilty; if you shoot someone from half a mile away you can claim it as a hunting accident...see my drift?

personally i think that if people had to kill others only with meelee weapons there'd be alot less killing going on because its alot easier to press a button and have a cruise missile take out half a block than it is to plunge a blade into someone's chest cavity over and over

yes, biofuels are murder (but i could make the murder argument for just about anything...farm combines are murder for example), i personally could care less - the name of the game is Survival, not "how many people can live peacefully with each other", i personally would rather drive an SUV than know that some Pakistani family got their rice rations that day; selfishness is bliss, complete selfishness is freedom
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Tyler_JC:
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““Life is on the wire…the rest is just waiting””

wisconsin_cur

Parts of the world do not seem to have much of a problem using machetes to do the work of killing for them.

Maybe you get use to it?
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Newfie

Yes, we can get used to a lot of things. Good point.

And I was not trying to pass moral judgment on the SUV thing. Once me and mine are fine, which includes our necessary community, then I'll try to worry about others.

Now if I could just convince my wife..................
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Cid_Yama

Overpopulation and peak oil: The perfect storm

In 1850, the world population lingered at 1 billion; in America it was 23 million. The world population is now closing in on 7 billion while here it nears 310 million. It was oil, and its cousin natural gas, that allowed the population to grow to unprecedented proportions as quickly as it did. As oil is depleted, it’s correct to assume the population will decrease proportionately.

In 1974, the government released a study (NSSM 200) that concluded the world population needed to be decreased drastically for humans to survive after peak oil without dire consequences. This was followed by the Carter administration’s Global 2000 document that said an immediate goal of less than 2 billion worldwide is necessary. Others suggest a world of no more than 500 million is more realistic.

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Oil production is in decline, supergiants about to crash like a row dominoes; Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang. Horizontal drilling and water flooding of oil fields leads to maximum production followed by collapse; not the 'long, slow decline, forever' of Collin Campbell.

Fish stocks in the ocean are nearly depleted. Supporting 7 billion people is destroying the planet and will soon make it unihabitable. Without available oil, the planet at tops can support 1 billion sustainably(a better figure is probably about 250 million).

As the supply/demand gap increases and oil fields begin to crash, we will experience financial collapse worldwide. We will see disruptions in the transportation of food and other essentials. Not enough food will be able to be grown. People will begin to starve.

Social unrest is inevitable, threatening whatever infrastructure remains. Scavengers will dismantle the power grid to obtain "scrap" to sell to feed themselves and their family. The total irrevocable erosion of everything will commence.

Then we will experience FAMINE on a scale larger than ever seen in the history of mankind. Millions will wander the countryside eating EVERYTHING they find, like a plague of giant locusts. Pandemics will ensue as starving people have weakened immune systems. Wars, large and small, will continue over remaining resources.

Without intervention, Coal will be burned in it's entirety just to stave off the inevitable a little longer. Planetary thresholds are passed and we enter runaway global warming. Temperatures exceed survivable limits. GAME OVER.

OR... Informed Heads of State with the power to act, reduce the population in the near term to sustainable levels and avoid the end of mankind and the destruction of the planet. Take the action before the action takes itself with the dire consequences detailed above.

Everything mentioned in the above senario is ALREADY HAPPENING.

When I originally posted this on my blog, I believed action would make a difference, with the new data on methane clathrates in the arctic, it's obvious it's too late.
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dohboi · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Dec 05, 2005 Posts: 1158

Cid, would you please consider running for president. We need at least one candidate telling some important truths.

vetusfirma

I know Cid is loved by all, but please, quit kissing his ass. He wouldn't last long in the political world. So if you love him, and I know you do, keep him here, where its safe.
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Jack · Dark Lord Joined: Aug 11, 2004 Posts: 4972

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dohboi · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Dec 05, 2005 Posts: 1158

vetus, it was meant as a compliment. Are compliments now against the posting rules here?

But you're right. The life of most major candidates is not pleasant.