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Wildwell
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:09 am |
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untothislast wrote: According to BBCNews24, people have been hearing Leaf rubbing his hands together with glee, as far away as Orpington.
It was probably the static from the various parts of him that caused it.. 
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donshan
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:11 am |
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This Reuter's report mentions this terminal also supplies fuel to Luton and Heathrow airports. Any reports of effects on airlines?
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&c ... sion_dc_13
Quote: Nearby Luton airport and London's Heathrow said the smoke could disrupt some services but officials said the explosions were unlikely to cause fuel shortages for planes or cars.
The Buncefield depot supplies petrol and fuel oils for a large part of southeast England, including Luton and Heathrow airports. Oil is brought to the depot, near the town of Hemel Hempstead, in an underground pipeline from tankers unloading on Britain's east coast.
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gt1370a
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:28 am |
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Check this out.
February 2003: An explosion at a New York oil terminal briefly sent the price of oil soaring by more than $1 a barrel.
Prices slipped back slightly when it became clear that the incident was unlikely to be linked to terrorism, but still ended more than 2% higher on the day.
I would expect more or less the same to happen now, although the localized effects of gasoline availability in the UK may be a problem in the near-term.
Also, Fox News reports that there are 4 million gallons in storage at the site, much less than what was previously discussed here.
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falser
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:07 am |
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Joined: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 320 Location: Arlington, VA
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It's sort of beautiful in an armageddon kind of way:
The invasion of Mordor is at hand, make haste, fill up your tanks!
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Wildwell
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:10 am |
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donshan wrote: This Reuter's report mentions this terminal also supplies fuel to Luton and Heathrow airports. Any reports of effects on airlines? http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&c ... sion_dc_13Quote: Nearby Luton airport and London's Heathrow said the smoke could disrupt some services but officials said the explosions were unlikely to cause fuel shortages for planes or cars.
The Buncefield depot supplies petrol and fuel oils for a large part of southeast England, including Luton and Heathrow airports. Oil is brought to the depot, near the town of Hemel Hempstead, in an underground pipeline from tankers unloading on Britain's east coast.
Changed their stacking pattern, several of which are in that area (EG Bovingdon). It could become a much bigger problem, towns in the area are covered in thick smoke, in South London people are finding soot and glass on their car (clean up bill anyone?). Even on the south coast 80 miles away the sky is full of smoke.
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clv101
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:44 am |
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I've been following this subject today... but only just looked in at peakoil.com. Jees some people here are over reacting!! No wonder the greater public think Peak Oil is a load of rubbish if this is way events are interpreted.
Leaf especially - what planet are you on! This may be a big bang and a lot of smoke but it's a pretty small amount of oil - less than one days supply, we're talking 1/3 of a percentage point of annual oil. Believe it or not the countries energy infrastructure doesn't operate that close to the wire!
Leaf wrote: but I'll bet a beer that 1. gas will rise 25% or more 2. Many Station will be dry in the next few days and remain dry for 5 days or more. ie shortage
Let me know how to collect my beer. As of 2005-12-06 the average price of Unleaded 95 fuel in the UK is 86.3p, you'll pay up if it doesn't reach £1.08 this week? Petrol stations dry, why? The daily supply of oil from terminals, supply of product from refineries is completely unaffected - there are the same number of trucks and drivers on the road... There'll be no shortage.
The only logistical challenge will the Luton and Heathrow airports which only have a couple of days fuel on site and receive around 1/3 of their fuel from there via pipeline. But this isn't a big deal, they can increase supply from elsewhere a bit, planes can carry more fuel in...
I think this thread has told us a lot abut Leaf - the absurdity of his comments here reflect on the credibility of the rest of his anti-UK posts.
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Wildwell
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:05 am |
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Anyway, we're now taking bets on how much of the M1 motorway (freeway) has melted to the nearest yard 
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some_guy282
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:06 am |
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falser - That's a very impressive image of the smoke.
So I'm thinking that this explosion is somewhat analogis to the refinery explosion in Texas earlier this year? Didn't really affect prices nationwide at all. This seems even less serious because it wasn't even a refiner, just a storage depot.
I'm just hoping no one was killed.
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clv101
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:07 am |
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some_guy282 wrote: I'm just hoping no one was killed.
39 Casualties have gone to hospital.
36 minor injuries - cuts, bruises, flying glass type stuff
1 in for observation
1 in intensive care for breathing issues/lung damage and serious injuries
1 with serious injuries
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Jake_old
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:26 am |
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Quote: Anyway, we're now taking bets on how much of the M1 motorway (freeway) has melted to the nearest yard Smile
I think the closure of the M1 is a big issue, even if its just a couple of days. Surrounding towns will be gridlocked if it is not opened quickly.
Here's hoping.
The Shell station on London road has had a queue all day long and it is still there.
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Wildwell
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:37 pm |
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I don't wish to speculate, but the blast shock houses in Oxford, Stevenage, Northampton and parts of London and was heard in Doncaster, Taunton and Norwich..Now the M1 is from what I can remember 400 yards from the depot, the heat would almost certainly melt the tarmac, so I reckon it's going to be shut for a bit yet. Good luck in the morning!
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EnergySpin
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Post subject: Re: Large explosion at North London Oil terminal Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:48 pm |
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Wildwell wrote: Anyway, we're now taking bets on how much of the M1 motorway (freeway) has melted to the nearest yard 
Carmaggedon?
I apologise for the heartless comment but I could not resist the temptation.
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